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[profitis]

my answer to sarkeizen: i,l cut to the chase so that its easier for you to understand: the battery mentioned in wikipedia under the name 'oxygen concentration cell' and any battery related to it does not require kelvin statement to function.

[sarkeizen]

,l cut to the chase so that its easier for you to understand:

Wrong.  You're doing exactly and entirely the opposite.  Please define without using the term "wikipedia" nor *referencing* wikipedia. 

Your original argument was a device that would power a iPod eternally.  Is this what you are talking about now?

[profitis]

my answer to sarkeizen: the wikipedia oxygen concentration cell and any related gas concentration cell ONLY requires passage of gas from one electrode to the other for equilibration:cyle 1(on): compression of gas for electrochemical entropy requirement at expense of temperature entropy requirement.cycle 2(off):decompression of gas with temperature entropy requirement.thus we conclude kelvin statement not applicable to this 100percent reversable gas compression/decompression cycle at the expense of heat from a single thermal reservoir.

[sarkeizen]

my answer to sarkeizen: the wikipedia oxygen concentration cell and any related gas concentration cell ONLY requires...blah...blah...blah

Will it run an ipod eternally?  Why do you keep avoiding this rather obvious and important question?

[profitis]

my answer to sarkeizen: the WIKIPEDIA battery titled oxygen concentration cell and all related batteries do not require kelvin statement to function.they are perpetual motion devices of the 2nd kind.