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[MarkE]

@mark E,,the utility grid is 240volts and 20 000 milliamps with no discharge curve. my battery is 1volt and 30milliamps/cm2 with a discharge curve.how much palladium do you want me to buy to go off-grid? I,l stick to using it for ipods thanks (-:.

Profitis, a battery cannot consume materials and also be perpetual.  A battery that is perpetual cannot have a discharge curve.  You say that your battery has a discharge curve.  Therefore it is not perpetual.

[profitis]

@markE a perpetual motion machine cant have cyclic thermodynamics?since when? It depends how much current you draw and the rate at which it re-charges itself,much like the karpen oxygen spillover battery.the driving gradient is hydrogen spillover in this case.catalyst spillover reaching a saturation point,then must b de-contacted from its substrate for re-establishment of equilibrium i.e. switched off. So i,l listen to my ipod for say 30mins,switch it off to rest say 10minutes,then listen to my ipod for another 30mins and repeat the thermodynamic cycle.depends how much power i draw

[MarkE]

@markE a perpetual motion machine cant have cyclic thermodynamics?since when? It depends how much current you draw and the rate at which it re-charges itself,much like the karpen oxygen spillover battery.the driving gradient is hydrogen spillover in this case.catalyst spillover reaching a saturation point,then must b de-contacted from its substrate for re-establishment of equilibrium i.e. switched off. So i,l listen to my ipod for say 30mins,switch it off to rest say 10minutes,then listen to my ipod for another 30mins and repeat the thermodynamic cycle.depends how much power i draw

Profitis, a battery that discharges is by definition not perpetual.  You said that your battery has a discharge curve.  Therefore your battery is not perpetual. 

@mark E, ... my battery is 1volt and 30milliamps/cm2 with a discharge curve.how much palladium do you want me to buy to go off-grid? I,l stick to using it for ipods thanks (-:.

If you want to claim that you have some other free power source that can recharge your battery once discharged, or run loads on its own, then that is something different.  Of course if you want anyone to believe such an extraordinary claim, you will need to produce strong evidence for that claim.

[profitis]

@mark E,huh? A battery that discharges repeatedly inbetween auto-charging repeatedly isnt perpetual? Then what is it? ((-:giggle B) the entire class of spillover batteries auto-recharge my friend,try building one sometime.

[MarkE]

@mark E,huh? A battery that discharges repeatedly inbetween auto-charging repeatedly isnt perpetual? Then what is it? ((-:giggle B) the entire class of spillover batteries auto-recharge my friend,try building one sometime.

Profitis if you want to claim that you have a battery that charges itself, then you have a high evidence barrier to climb.  Would you care to demonstrate such a battery?  Or in the alternate would you care to point to documentation of such a battery?  What is the supposed source of energy that recharges this "entire class" of battery?