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[sarkeizen]

It sorts hot from cold that's all it does.does this constitute a computer?

You said "same as a computer".

Are you retracting again?

[profitis]

Mr sarkeizen who is the computer expert here? Who is the grand algo-rythm teacher here? Find out from your superiors if a hot-cold sort is a computer please while I fry my brain trying to figure how an ideological isothermal demon can exist ok?

[sarkeizen]

You can chalk me up another point.  Twice in this discussion alone I have Profitis dancing around a question he already answered.

Mr sarkeizen who is the computer expert here?

Well if someone says: "Like a computer" they are presuming sufficient expertise as to make that judgement.  So are you now saying that you are NOT COMPETENT to have made that statement?  I mean that's ok but since you've opened that door.   What else have you said and were not sufficiently competent to have made the statement?  Perhaps everything?

If you're going to try to cop out of being capable.  I think I win this hands down.

[MarkE]

You can chalk me up another point.  Twice in this discussion alone I have Profitis dancing around a question he already answered. Well if someone says: "Like a computer" they are presuming sufficient expertise as to make that judgement.  So are you now saying that you are NOT COMPETENT to have made that statement?  I mean that's ok but since you've opened that door.   What else have you said and were not sufficiently competent to have made the statement?  Perhaps everything?

If you're going to try to cop out of being capable.  I think I win this hands down.

this is like watching one of those talking stuffed animal bears walk onto Omaha Beach 6/6/1944.  The beach is white with profitis' stuffing.

[lumen]

Philips device does not perform any work and does not sort anything.
It simply creates an environment where electrons can sort themselves based on their energy level.

The same as a prism sorts photons based on their energy level.
Some environments can simply cause a reversal in entropy. Like how a magnetic field can steer an electron stream without itself doing any work.

Sometimes theorems don't apply in a case that"s outside of it's intended scope.
Like how nothing can travel faster than light. The mathematical proof is based on applied energy and is absolutely correct, however if the energy is applied from within the moving object and not from an outside source, then something can easily travel faster than light.
One must be careful to apply the mathematical proof within the scope of which it was intended.