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[lumen]

I look at quenco more as a prisim than a Maxwell demon. The electrons seperate themselves much as the photons seperate themselves by wavelength (level of energy).
So maybe you can tell me how information theory applies to a prisim sorting photons and decoding by wavelength without applied energy.

[sarkeizen]

I look at quenco more as a prisim than a Maxwell demon. The electrons seperate themselves much as the photons seperate themselves by wavelength (level of energy).So maybe you can tell me how information theory applies to a prisim sorting photons and decoding by wavelength without applied energy.

First explain why you think what you describe is different.   You could just as easily call classical "pressure demon" style devices(e.g. Smoluchowski's device) a prism as it sorts molecules by energy.

Generally speaking Maxwell Demon devices are anything which can alter entropy in an isothermal environment.

[lumen]

First explain why you think what you describe is different.   You could just as easily call classical "pressure demon" style devices(e.g. Smoluchowski's device) a prism as it sorts molecules by energy.

Generally speaking Maxwell Demon devices are anything which can alter entropy in an isothermal environment.

Because the prisim sorts every individual photon by it's independent wavelength regardless of how even the mixture, unlike Smoluchowski's device that sorts by pools of molecules and depends on a temperature gradient to operate.
I suppose the prisim is a case of "special information theory"

[sarkeizen]

Because the prisim sorts every individual photon by it's independent wavelength regardless of how even the mixture, unlike Smoluchowski's device that sorts by pools of molecules and depends on a temperature gradient to operate.

So let's straighen some things out here.  The question is "Is a quenco a Maxwell's Demon device?" - that is does it take an isothermal environment and alter it's entropy.  You said "No, it's like a prism" - in the sense that it sorts photons by their energy level.  So do just about all proposed Maxwell's Demon devices.  Smoluchowski's device sorts (even in an isothermal environment) however it can't do so and reduce entropy.  Now you appear to want to look at some other aspect of a prism which doesn't have to do with an isothermal environment or entropy.  If somehow your underlying argument is still "this is what a quenco is like" then it's unclear in what respect you are talking about.  In what way is the quenco "like a prisim" other than it sorts by energy state and in what way is that relevant to answering whether it takes an isothermal environment and shifts it's entropy.

I suppose the prisim is a case of "special information theory"

So far you haven't shown how a prism affects thermal entropy.

[forcefield]

So the next question to ask yourself is:  "Is Quenco a Maxwell's Demon machine?" - that is "Does it reduce entropy in an isothermal environment?"

If Quenco were to work in the way that I understand it to work, then yes, it "reduces entropy."  But, not in an isothermal environment as the average temperature of the system goes down.

Put Quenco in an insulated box and let it power an electric motor that lifts a weight.  The temperature in the box goes down, while the usable stored energy of the weight goes up.

There's undoubtedly more order in the system than there was before.  Therefore, I claim reduced entropy.

Is this not how Quenco is being "advertised?"  Is this not a reduction of entropy?