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Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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lumen

It looks like a fear of change is creeping in.
Tk says he can adapt, but yet he is the first showing signs of "future shock".

Relax TK, it will all be over soon.

I don't think the US will have much luck sequestering an international patent from Australia.


TinselKoala

Quote from: lumen on November 21, 2012, 10:43:57 AM
It looks like a fear of change is creeping in.
Tk says he can adapt, but yet he is the first showing signs of "future shock".
Yawn. Wake me up when the future arrives.
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Relax TK, it will all be over soon.
Soon....soon.... where have I heard that before?
Just as all electrical free energy devices need batteries, real working free energy devices are always going to appear..... soon.

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I don't think the US will have much luck sequestering an international patent from Australia.

Those who do not remember history, are doomed to repeat it.

If PHJ had stayed in Australia and used the fine facilities there to produce his product, and the universities there to test it..... I'd tend to agree with you. But he's in Silicon Valley, and travels at the pleasure of the US Government as long as he's within the borders. "Your papers please" is no longer the cliche from old war movies, said by the jack-booted Nazi thug to the frightened Jewish grandmother. It's a daily event in the USA.... you have to prove who you are and your right to travel several times a day nowadays, and if you go by air..... you may despair.
What good is a patent -- or rather, a patent _application_ , even a public one, if no one can use the information in it to make anything that works?

Qwert

If Quenco's one square millimeter have power of five kilowatts, I'm afraid of ants when they accidentally get to a future warehouse stock; good story for a science - fiction writer.

e2matrix

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 20, 2012, 04:57:58 PM
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@e2matrix: I have no problem with projects that take a long time for completion, longer than the participants anticipated or planned for. I have a problem with people who constantly miss deadlines and fail over and over to demonstrate what they claim. And I'm sure whoever contracted you for your project would have also felt the same way.
I learned a long time ago that the way to make customers happy is to promise them a _LATER_ completion date than you think you can manage. Then, when you finish in, say, two weeks, but you told them three, you call up and deliver one week ahead of schedule and everyone is happy, word gets around and you get more business. But if you promised one week, and you  finish the same project in two weeks.... your customer will think you are late and unreliable, word gets around and you lose business. Yet you finished the same project in the same amount of time in each case.
Sort of like how they are trying to duplicate the atomic bomb, or Rossi's "Ecat"?
But I do agree with you: the seizure would give the Quenco so much "street cred" that it would push a lot of people over the edge and cause them to pay more attention. So the non-seizure is a clever use of reverse psychology by the Forces of Suppression to make sure nobody works on Quenco, by pretending it's insignificant. Right?
On the other hand, the nonseizure might indicate what I'm implying that it means: non-significance, non-importance to national security. And I believe that I've shown that a power source like Quenco claims to be... even "low power" enough to power a cellphone... will have truly great military significance, and that's not the only NS consequence or implication.I'd like to know how you know that.  You are telling me that suppression only happens after the fact of public knowledge, because we know only of suppressions that happened after the fact. If suppression were effective before the fact of publication .... you and I would not know of it at all. So we have no way of knowing how many free energy projects and inventors have been suppressed before they made their discoveries public.... do we? Unless that is, you are the one doing the suppression.
Just to clarify I learned well from Star Trek's Scotty too - never tell them how long it will really take or how much you can give -- always overstate how long or understate how much you can give.  But these big projects were for myself.

As far as suppression I'm not saying they all were suppressed only after becoming public -- just that many of them have gone that path.  I believe there are a many that may have been suppressed before going public however unless someone or the government is made aware of them the won't know to suppress them, i.e. there must be awareness before someone can take action.  I was mulling over some stories from the past and there are a lot where something seemed to be real  but then the inventor was killed, bought out and invention shelved, or paid off to go away.   I'll admit I haven't had the opportunity to verify all of those but there seems to be a lot of evidence to support that is what often happens and in a couple cases I have had personal contact with inventors to hear that is what happens. 

    However I think Quenco has enough interest from very big money companies that can benefit greatly from it that this will not likely take the same path as other inventions.   

e2matrix

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 21, 2012, 05:23:43 AM
Heh.... no, there are many kinds of free energy that won't be useful on the Battlefield Earth or be destabilising. Rossi's 1 MW Ecat, the ZED, any gravity wheel.... bring it on, I ain't worried, we are not going to see Ecat powered missiles or gravity-wheel main battle tanks.... A HoJoMo in every fighter jet, the Sword of God as the depot-level powerplant in the rear, Little Miss Mosfet heaters providing hot showers for the troops, Orbo-powered CD players and electric razors.
But something like Quenco.... gives one pause, for sure. Personally I'd like to see an upheaval in the status quo, until I remember what suffering it will cause. Then I think that maybe Quenco is the key to Pandora's Box (or jar). Open it, and you mightn't like everything that comes flying out, and for sure you won't be able to stuff it back inside.

I see a whole different reality.  One where there are no more reasons for wars or greed.  One in which governments become much less important.  Everyone has the opportunity for self sufficiency.   Robotics would take off big time and create a huge industry since they could do all the hard work with self contained power packs.   I could go on for a long while but I'll just say Imagine this :

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Imagine(d) by  John Lennon
Brought to you by Quenco  :)

Ideally I would probably change a couple things in Lennon's lyrics but you get the idea.   There is a better world to be had if we start imagining it.   I'll say again a very important universal truth : you EMPOWER that which you focus on.