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Bruce_TPU

Quote from: sarkeizen on December 12, 2012, 01:04:45 PM
You are simply and completely wrong.It's not a question of patience period.  Either Philip is a competent manager or he isn't.  If you want me believe that Quenco really works then that forces me to believe he is poor at managing this endeavour.

Philip hasn't updated the Quenco site because he has no functioning quencos.  It's very likely that he can't have them as any Maxwell's Demon device is essentially a computing device.  The fact that Philip maintains that there is some 2LOT hole at the quantum level not only breaks Lord Kelvins interpretation of 2LOT it would also likely violates algorithmic information theory....and of course if TWO people think something it MUST be true.

I'm here because this is a place Phil posts and I think it's worth mentioning how long and hard he's pushed the "it's almost there button".  Believe if you want in Quencoism but you also must believe that Phil is a lousy manager...or cook up some special definition of "good manager" which includes his poor practices.

For me, it is not a matter of "believing" or not.  It is a matter of how we treat someone else on this forum, who for all intents and purposes, owe neither you, nor I anything, not even an explanation.  Also, Phillip has been a member of this forum far longer than yourself.  If you want to be discouraged over the delays, that is your perogative.  But remember, he owes nothing to any of us, and only posts out of respect for some members in this forum.

As many years as some of us here have been working on projects, another couple of months is hardly a big deal at all.

My personal opinion is that we are living in a fantasy land if we think for a moment that the government will not intervene if quanco does work as advertised.  No way in a zillion years, they would risk the economy and millions of oil jobs.  They will cite "national security" and it too will go away with all of the others.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

sarkeizen

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on December 12, 2012, 09:49:26 PM
For me, it is not a matter of "believing" or not.
Actually it is.  Like it or not you do have to come to one of those conclusions.  Either Philip is managing this project badly or not (or you can make up some definition of "not badly" which includes bad practices).   Right now, if you want to believe that Quenco is real then you pretty much have to believe that Philip has managed things badly.
QuoteIt is a matter of how we treat someone else on this forum, who for all intents and purposes, owe neither you, nor I anything, not even an explanation.
Uh you realize that you have strongly asserted that we owe Philip something (a certain kind of treatment) but he owes us absolutely nothing.  I mean you're wrong but it's worth pointing out that inconsistency.  I'd say, and you will agree because you're not a moron.  That he owes us honesty.

However either he has been dishonest about his schedules OR he has been inept.  Which is just being dishonest about the level of confidence we should have.  For example right now he is saying "I have no doubt we will succeed in February" so if he fails there in a place where he has ZERO doubt.  Isn't that an example of dishonesty?  Having no doubt when you know that you should?  You either know you know for sure or you are lying that you know for sure.
QuoteAlso, Phillip has been a member of this forum far longer than yourself.
What?  All of a sudden I really am a new poster?  No apology either for being so utterly and completely wrong?
QuoteIf you want to be discouraged over the delays, that is your perogative.
I'm pointing out some rather obvious logical consequences of someone who has said "a few more weeks" for well over a year.
Quoteonly posts out of respect for some members in this forum.
Please restrict yourself to stating things you can actually know.
QuoteAs many years as some of us here have been working on projects, another couple of months is hardly a big deal at all.
Ok and when he fails in Feb?  How about then?  June?  He fails there too?   December?  In December 2013 he says "It will be done in February 2014 for sure".    At what point - if you can not believe that Quenco isn't working.  Do you have to believe that Phillip sucked in a deep and abiding way at managing this?  2015? 2016? 2020?  Just let me know what it will take.

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: sarkeizen on December 12, 2012, 10:24:43 PM
Actually it is.  Like it or not you do have to come to one of those conclusions.  Either Philip is managing this project badly or not (or you can make up some definition of "not badly" which includes bad practices).   Right now, if you want to believe that Quenco is real then you pretty much have to believe that Philip has managed things badly.Uh you realize that you have strongly asserted that we owe Philip something (a certain kind of treatment) but he owes us absolutely nothing.  I mean you're wrong but it's worth pointing out that inconsistency.  I'd say, and you will agree because you're not a moron.  That he owes us honesty.

If Philip is managing the project, not up to your standards or specifications, I suggest you write him your brilliant managerial assistance that will help him.  Considering that you have built nothing, nor contributed nothing to this forum, but taking up useless bandwidth to be critical of a man because you feel "let down" or "lied to" somehow, get over it dude!  And get over yourself.  My last post to you should have been enough, but know, you have to keep on..... like a troll would.  Are you a troll, just repeating and repeating and repeating yourself?  It is HIS project to do with what he will.  He can take it and shut it down tomorrow if he chooses.  Or he can delay until 2016.  Truth is, who really cares?  It will be here when it get here, if it gets here.  All of your pissing in the wind contributes nothing to the end result... is MY point.  Get it?   ::) ::)   ~ Bruce


However either he has been dishonest about his schedules OR he has been inept.  Which is just being dishonest about the level of confidence we should have.  For example right now he is saying "I have no doubt we will succeed in February" so if he fails there in a place where he has ZERO doubt.  Isn't that an example of dishonesty?  Having no doubt when you know that you should?  You either know you know for sure or you are lying that you know for sure.What?  All of a sudden I really am a new poster?  No apology either for being so utterly and completely wrong?I'm pointing out some rather obvious logical consequences of someone who has said "a few more weeks" for well over a year.Please restrict yourself to stating things you can actually know.Ok and when he fails in Feb?  How about then?  June?  He fails there too?   December?  In December 2013 he says "It will be done in February 2014 for sure".    At what point - if you can not believe that Quenco isn't working.  Do you have to believe that Phillip sucked in a deep and abiding way at managing this?  2015? 2016? 2020?  Just let me know what it will take.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Philip Hardcastle

Hi All,


Just popped in to wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy new year.


I have posted my latest excuse on the quentron website :-)


Apparently some nasty troll here wants me to admit I am not good at management, ok I will admit that, I will also say that I am naive, overly optimistic, believe experts, have faith in the overall good of humanity and hope that we are all prepared to be honest with each other when there is so much as stake.


Why some people want Quenco to be wrong or fools gold I cannot fathom, all I can say is that I use my real name, that I am 100% sure that Quenco will become the power generation device that will power our futures and that it will be very very cheap.


That people call me names is hurtful, it bothers me, I have children and friends that read and hear things, and friends and acquaintances that become aware of these cheap shots. However at this stage I know that no such negative and viscous attacks can stop something now in so many hands, people who know all I have said is true and that Quenco is beyond doubt.


I am happy with the failures of the last few months because they were only delays. The delays caused by issues not related to Quenco and outside my control gave me / us time to deal with other matters that now makes building Quenco easy. For instance when I first arrived at Stanford the prior work done by Australian scientists gave me a head start but when we considered the need to reduce dimensions still further to overcome the substitution of barium (because we could not get permission for its use) with Yttrium, we came up against some issues regarding dielectric defects and strength, in the time we had we found a method using RTA (rapid thermal annealing wherein we could improve the dielectric properties by about 70x. We also worked out a reliable method to selectively etch SiO2 without any damage to HfO2. All in all we lost time to make the quenco this year but we used the time productively such that our work in February is now just a matter of schedule, not of trail and error, of course we still need to apply process controls of characterization and witness plates, but once these are done we can make a batch of quenco just like any production line. NOTE single layer at this point in time.


As far as expected results with the ability to have better dielectric strength and thinner layers the use of a 3.1ev emitter (yttrium) in no way limits the quenco, in other words we are totally comfortable with device currents of more than 1,000A per cm2, and we now feel that we can increase the voltage per layer to 100mV. Without question multilayer Quenco will always be limited by the ability to get heat in so talk of 10,000A per cm2 is irrelevant but nonetheless the modelling says that is easily achieved.


I still make the point that the big inventions and tasks ahead are how to use Quenco to it maximum utility. I have said it to many and will say it now, my job is done in February, after the release of the samples to the licencees a lot of money flows to the foundation, not to me, and that becomes the premier research organisation to take Quenco forward.


I note someone called me greedy and such, may i say that is unfair, check the overunity prize and see that I have made the largest pledge of funds, and that my website (crude as it is) stated that all the royalties go to the foundation. My reasoning for not making this open source are based upon a lot of consideration of submissions made from forum members and others. Realities are that only a very small number of people have the money to get things going, without those industrialists quenco cannot do anything for climate change and nothing for the poor. If you believe that open sourcing is a better option then you are mistaken, it sounds good but then so does socialism. The best we can do is to make a good deal with the devil (Capitalism).


Now this really is my last post for this year but I will come back once Quenco is finished so I can gloat at the noted silence of some.


BYE

sarkeizen

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on December 12, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
If Philip is managing the project, not up to your standards or specifications, I suggest you write him your brilliant managerial assistance that will help him.
It's not even a question of MY standards.  It's a question of "what standards are reasonable?".
QuoteConsidering that you have built nothing,
Again please confine yourself to statements you can know.
Quotenor contributed nothing to this forum, but taking up useless bandwidth to be critical of a man because you feel "let down" or "lied to" somehow
Again it's not a question of how I feel.  It's a simple question of what is reasonable.  Is it reasonable to believe that Philip managed this project badly or not.  If the tech is real then it's hard to argue that he didn't do things poorly.  Again it's not a question of "feeling" lied to.  Either he told the truth or he didn't.  Either he knew that the deadlines were stupidly optimistic or he didn't.  If he did then he lied to us.  If he didn't he lied implicitly in terms of confidence he portrayed.

QuoteMy last post to you should have been enough
The only person with a humongous ego here appears to be you.  Or did you get elected to the "council who decides what is and is not enough"....Must have missed the memo.

QuoteIt is HIS project to do with what he will.  He can take it and shut it down tomorrow if he chooses.
Nobody has questioned that...please confine yourself to relevant arguments.
QuoteTruth is, who really cares?  It will be here when it get here, if it gets here.
So if someone said to you every day for a year: "It will get here tomorrow, for sure!" that doesn't erode your faith in their statement?  What about two years?  Twenty?  No?  Never?  You would never, ever change your estimation of their word regardless?  I suspect you're attempting to shift the discussion here because it's uncomfortable for you.  That's just speculation though.
QuoteAll of your pissing in the wind contributes nothing to the end result... is MY point.  Get it?
However pointing out that someone is probably shouldn't be trusted in a particular sense with rather well thought out arguments (a statmentto which you will make a criticism without substance) might shift peoples attention to something more worthwhile. 

Or are only cheerleaders allowed here?  You should put that in a sticky somewhere.