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Philip:


Keep up the good work and good luck to you!


And a very merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family.


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[sarkeizen]

I think we should all choose to ignore the attention seeking trolls from this point. 

Hmmm....Philip is supposedly against namecalling but that's pretty much all you guys are doing.  Calling someone a "troll" is namecalling and also an implicit ad hominem attack.  Look it's ok to like Philip for whatever reasons but there's no reason to let go of your rationality at the same time.  I've got friends who I would never loan more than a dollar to.  They're still my friends but objective data says that they would use the money to hurt themselves or someone else.  So in order to be responsible with my money I have to make decisions about probable outcomes based on objective data.

Likewise with Philip.  You simply have to look at the objective data concerning his ability to deliver and make some kinds of rational dispassionate decisions.  Is he likely to have a good grasp of what it takes to deliver a product on a specified date.  If yes, then at what point do you stop believing that?  How many failures will it take to affect your judgement.  If the answer is "no amount of failures" then you're not really making a rational decision.   Likewise and I hesitate to bring this up here where emotions run your lives but there would, rationally speaking be a point at which a number of failures would tell us that Philip is simply not the man for the job.  Not that he might not have value elsewhere but he simply shouldn't be leading this kind of project.  Especially if there are $100's of millions of dollars invested from other companies (or potential revenue).  Philip has on many occasions told us that his lack of disclosure it to protect the interests of other companies.  Do you really think that such interests don't extend to some level of executive control?  Like I said, all of this sounds like someone who hasn't managed more than a lemonade stand.

Let the trolls alone, they only will change with proper education.

More namecalling and ad hominem.

So the solution to the world's problems, not is Quenco, the solution is integral education, learn to think, to reason, learn to be sensitive, to learn to work together, learn to think out of the box, learn to be a real human.

Exactly where does Philp do any of this.  Really Quenco is exceptionally scant on information, like near nothing useful.  Philip can't or won't respond to arguments, has zero doubts (why doesn't that worry anyone?).  This is the world you think is better.  Where everyone tells you unlikely things and never, ever has to produce useful evidence to support this?  Is that really thinking?  It sounds like the opposite.  Philips arguments are by and large arguments from authority...so is that "reasoning" or "thinking"?  Logicians, thinkers would probably say "no".

Thanks for the info Phil. Hope you have a great Christmas home in Australia.

Where was the info?  If you look closely he spent a fair amount of time talking about things irrelevant to the fact that quencos - which he was expecting to be delivered with barium emitters and require so little finishing work that they would be ready for the international product launch in a couple of days - mostly for pictures.

You also have avoided my question.  What happens in Feb?  Will you still think Philip knows what he's talking about when he says "June".  What about in June?  What if December 2013 he says "for sure in Feb 2014" are you still going to assume that he knows what he's talking about?  If so, when does your judgement shift? 

[lumen]

The problem is that many people here are late in arriving. Philip had posted many different updates on his web page describing the Quenco process and theory and at times probably gave more information into it's operation than he wanted.

If you are one of those late people then it simply sucks to be you and you should just get over it and do some research. There are many devices that exhibit similar properties to the operation of a Quenco chip if you look into it.

The tunnel diode has a similar effect but requires a bias current because the barrier is much thicker that the proposed Quenco chip.

Mosfet gate tunneling became a problem when the gate barriers were reduced under 90nm, another similar effect.

In fact, the current limit in CPU is about 65nm and requires reduced voltages so the electrons don't tunnel through.
So you can see that tunneling is a real effect that occurs at a voltage dependent on the barrier thickness.
Now if you can reduce the barrier to something very small like 3nm and you provide a voltage only by the difference in work function of two different metals, then with just a tiny bit of heat, an electron could tunnel the barrier and cause a current to flow.

This is only MY view of a working Quenco based on information from Philip and my own research.
Quenco works not to defy the laws of physics, but because of the laws of physics!

I for one am very convinced that Quenco is a real device that Philip will get into production in a fast time frame.

Just think if Edison was trying to make a light bulb, how some would be calling him a fraud and if it worked he should have it by now and just a flash from his device was not useful and on and on and on, just like they do now with other peoples ventures.

The facts are that most skeptics are just jealous people that have accomplished nothing in their own life and have little self esteem.

[MileHigh]

Lumen:

The facts are that most skeptics are just jealous people that have accomplished nothing in their own life and have little self esteem.

You have got to be kidding, that's just a nonsensical and gratuitous ad hominem attack.  You and others are uncomfortable with Philips's failure to deliver yet again, so in frustration you attack others that don't share your opinion.  Other contributors to this thread have done the same thing as you.

Shame on all of you that have done this, we are here to discuss Philip and the Quentron free energy proposition.  Try to stick to the subject at hand.

MileHigh

[Elisha]

More namecalling and ad hominem.Exactly where does Philp do any of this.

Sorry is not just you, everyone have a troll inside also me ! but must be jailed inside.

This is the world you think is better.  Where everyone tells you unlikely things and never, ever has to produce useful evidence to support this?  Is that really thinking?  It sounds like the opposite.  Philips arguments are by and large arguments from authority...so is that "reasoning" or "thinking"?  Logicians, thinkers would probably say "no".

You are late to the party, Philip give us a Theory, drawings, explains, and also very important a simple test,  I do the simple test with the vacuum tube and by myself experiment I can tell you, THIS WORK !   This is real education, try by yourself not just to believe in words in the air from someone.

You also have avoided my question.  What happens in Feb?  Will you still think Philip knows what he's talking about when he says "June".  What about in June?  What if December 2013 he says "for sure in Feb 2014" are you still going to assume that he knows what he's talking about?  If so, when does your judgement shift?

All the life is a learning process, keep one eye open !,  Philip is learning a lot about nano deposition process, then in some time Philip will have a Working Quenco, if this is not in February don't worry, he dont is asking money from us.

If you observe the life with care, we the humans dont have any control about what happen. if you think you have control over your life and your actions, you have not yet seen life carefully. It's just our pride and littleness that makes us think that we are in control of something, the truth is that nothing is under our control. Clearly with this, I'm not saying that we should not plan, you have to plan and prepare everything in advance, but be sure that our plans will be met as design is just the lack of seeing what happens in real life.