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Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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sarkeizen

Quote from: lumen on December 16, 2012, 12:43:25 PM
So you say you have giving up on Hot Fusion?
So let's first define some terms:

Hot fusion is a somewhat vague collection of technologies.
Tokamak is a particular containment technology designed for a hot fusion reaction.
ITER is a project to investigate a number of technologies concerning hot fusion inside a Toamak reactor.  Not the least of which is implementing a 500MW reactor.
Osamu Motojima is the Director General of the ITER project.

Each one of those is logically independent in one direction.  I can give up on Osamu Motojima as capable of delivering ITER without giving up on ITER as being deliverable.  I can give up on ITER as being deliverable without giving up on Tokamak as being a feasible technology to implement and of course I can give up on Tokamak as a feasible design without giving up on hot fusion in general.

Quenco is constently missing it's self-set deadlines, including it's self-set international product launch.  Now that has to be caused by something.  If your mind can't possibly believe that it's 2LOT, "electrostatic Maxwell's Demon" or Quenco.   Then the problem must be Philip.  Put another way, if still think it's reasonable that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics has been broken, that electrostatics can create a functional Maxwell's Demon and that Quenco implements all these...then you have to believe that Philip sucks as a manager.
Speaking of the so-called product launch.  This was supposed to be an event that people could attend.  What happened to those people?  Did nobody want to see the incredible Quenco? If they did Philip either informed them well ahead of time in which case he's been fibbing to everyone else or they had to cancel their flights to his little shindig.

Quoteit is proven to work
Again the term "work" means different things depending on which one of those terms you are using.

Hot fusion works in the sense that the theory is sound and experimentally validated.
Tokamak works if it can be scaled to useful power generation levels.
ITER works when it delivers the goals set by them.  Including creating a test reactor by 2020.
Osamu Motojima "works" when he delivers the things he set out to do.
Quotewe just need another 10 years or about that to get it to work

What ITER will produce, if they keep to their schedule is a 500MW plant in 8 years sitting in the south of france.  It will give us an idea of how much it costs to replicate this technology.  That doesn't mean that funding should continue.  Hot fusion is an immensely expensive project which was planned not to be realized until 2020.   In 2020 we may decide that it is simply not worth it.
QuoteI will wait a few more months to see if Philip and his team provide some results on something

...and you keep avoiding and avoiding and avoiding the question.  Which is "When he fails in February then what?" is your confidence for him to deliver in June 2013 just as strong as it is now that he will deliver in Feb 2013?  Please answer the question instead of droning on about irrelevant things.
QuoteGiven what I believe to understand of how the Quenco should operate and being an engineer for 30 years, I would expect the Quenco development from theory to product to easily exceed a year.
So you agree that Philip who constantly says "next week" or "next month" is either incompetent or lying? (if he knows better he isn't saying and if he doesn't he shouldn't be saying)
QuoteIf you do not have any concept of how Quenco could operate or what may be required to construct the device and the issues that crop up, then I agree that one of little knowledge would dispair easily and give up after a few statements of one showing their optimisim, that did not work out well.
LOL. So when someone has the expectation that Quenco should have been delivered last Feb or last Dec.   They are doing so because "they don't have any concept of how Quenco could operate or what maybe requried to construct the device".

Good.  So far the only person who's saying that is Philip J. Hardcastle....and that folks is what we call Q.E.D.
Quote
This is not a demand of Philip since I have no right to demand anything of him.
Not even honesty? You think it's okay for him to lie to people here? How about competency?  If someone knows they can't do a job shouldn't they step down?  What about someone who can't do a job (such as manage timelines) shouldn't they get someone else to do it?  If you can't manage timelines and you know it but you keep making earnest statements about how there is zero doubt that you won't deliver on day X?  Isn't that being dishonest?

sarkeizen

Quote from: trim12 on December 17, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
Hope some of you will find these urls interesting.

Maxwell's demon goes quantum, can do work, write and erase data.

but not violate 2LOT...you are only making the world dumber.

So where's the answer to my question there anyway...what happens to your confidence in Philip when he fails in February?  If nothing.  what happens when he fails in June 2013?  Again if nothing what about 2020?  If nothing then don't you see an obvious source of incredible stupidity in yourself by never allowing information to affect your assertions?

Is this weird "circle the wagons" mentality just the way everyone behaves here?  If this thread were a room...it would be all elephant!

mrsean2k

Quote from: sarkeizen on December 17, 2012, 09:56:15 AMNot even honesty? You think it's okay for him to lie to people here? How about competency?  If someone knows they can't do a job shouldn't they step down?  What about someone who can't do a job (such as manage timelines) shouldn't they get someone else to do it?  If you can't manage timelines and you know it but you keep making earnest statements about how there is zero doubt that you won't deliver on day X?  Isn't that being dishonest?


Even you know that you're only a liar if you know it isn't true.


If someone continues to make statements about timelines and they miss those timelines, the responsibility falls on whoever has an expectation that the timeline will be met to adjust their expectation accordingly. That adjustment is your responsibility, not his.


But let's baldly accept that PJH is a poor manager and / or poor at estimating contingency?. And? How thrilled should I be at the prospect of a competent manager. My blood fair sings with the thrill.

TinselKoala

Quote from: mrsean2k on December 17, 2012, 11:01:29 AM

Even you know that you're only a liar if you know it isn't true.


If someone continues to make statements about timelines and they miss those timelines, the responsibility falls on whoever has an expectation that the timeline will be met to adjust their expectation accordingly. That adjustment is your responsibility, not his.


But let's baldly accept that PJH is a poor manager and / or poor at estimating contingency?. And? How thrilled should I be at the prospect of a competent manager. My blood fair sings with the thrill.

Contrariwise. If someone speaks from a position of claimed knowledge, but in fact does not possess that knowledge, then they lie. When a preacher stands in a pulpit and says that you will have life everlasting if you only have faith in Jesus.... he lies, even though he might think he speaks the truth, because he does not have the knowledge that he claims to have.... only a strong belief. Had he said "I _believe_ that you will have life everlasting blah blah..." Then he might be speaking the truth.
PJH is telling us he knows things, when he only believes them. The fact that he might not be able to distinguish between his knowledge and his beliefs only means that he might not be completely aware that he is telling porkies.... it does not alter the veracity -- or lack of it---- of his claims.

mrsean2k

If your preacher believes it is the truth, he doesn't lie. I don't have to accept that what he tells me is true (and don't) but that alone wouldn't alter my opinion of how honest he is.


PJH claims to have performed an experiment several times that supports his contention. He also believes that he's been sufficiently careful in his experiment to rule out other explanations for measurements he claims to get. And he claims that the experiment that would settle it once and for all has been subject to several delays for other practical reasons. I'm perfectly happy to believe all of those claims. YMMV.


As far as his proposed experiment is concerned, it's fine to claim "there must be a mistake, here are some of the possibilities" Would it be a lie to say you were absolutely certain it was one of your suggestions without performing the experiment?