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[sarkeizen]

Even you know that you're only a liar if you know it isn't true.

You should read what I post.  I've said that makes Philip incompetent at the task of management of timelines and perhaps management of this project in general.

If someone continues to make statements about timelines and they miss those timelines, the responsibility falls on whoever has an expectation that the timeline will be met to adjust their expectation accordingly. That adjustment is your responsibility, not his.

...and that's what I've actually said if you actually read what I wrote - Try it sometime!  That's the question nobody will answer.  What happens to YOUR confidence in Philip's next deadline should he miss February. Does it stay the same or does it go down?  So far no answer from the peanut gallery - lots of attempts to avoid answering the question.   The fact is, just about every doofus in this thread has trivialized waiting a few months.  It's kind of obvious that constitutes an expectation of some kind.  Hence each one of those people must, by YOUR standards have an adjusted confidence value concerning his next timeline.  Now if everyone wants to clam up and not talk about it that's their prerogative.  However it is a pretty humongous Elephant-in-the-room.

But let's baldly accept that PJH is a poor manager and / or poor at estimating contingency?. And? How thrilled should I be at the prospect of a competent manager. My blood fair sings with the thrill.

Yawn.  Even if you attempt to exempt yourself from any non-trivial expectations regarding Quenco it's clear that people here DO have expectations.

[doublehelix]

As a member of the so called peanut gallery my observation is that there is an elephant in the room, it is the ego of sarkeizen. He posts here with the deliberate intent of offending, we have all seen this sort of person before who craves attention in order to feel important, they do not reveal any truths except that they are a very sick and counter productive person. In ordinary life we call them bullies or psychopaths.

forums should be about respectful dialogue

[Bruce_TPU]

Is there a moderator for this board, or almost ANY board?  We should change the name of our forum perhaps to "Overpester.com".

If you too are getting sick and tired of the badgering, and pestering of and by the trolls, both former and recent ones, please comment until we can get some moderation back on this forum, please, for the love of God.

[sarkeizen]

Even arguments involving information theory propose that there is an energy cost in observation that is greater than the benefit of the particle energy partition, though it is oft expressed as an increase in entropy caused by lost information, incredulously one widely accepted argument is that the Demon runs out of paper upon which to write down observations and so must reuse the paper for new entries, I must say it is from such tripe and silly arguments that I always felt there was a reason and justification to doubt Lord Kelvin and search for a viable Demon, so here I am.............. and it only took me 34 years.

LOL.  Philip is very concerned about what I say but tries not to appear so.

Yet again, Phillip begs the question.  Running out of paper is talking about storage.  If you decide something you must be deciding it FROM some piece of information.   Running out of "paper" or however you're storing something means that you eventually have to reuse your storage.

I also think he's kind of lying a bit.  Last post he seemed to have no knowledge at all of how the arguments from information theory work.  Now these have somehow informed his belief from day one.

[sarkeizen]

And he claims that the experiment that would settle it once and for all has been subject to several delays for other practical reasons. I'm perfectly happy to believe all of those claims. YMMV.

In other words you have an expectation.  A probability that in February that Philip's prediction is correct  P(Feb2013) = ? (probably .99999 for you) ;-)

Again, and again, and again, and again.  What happens to that value when you are now looking at P(June2013)? or P(Dec2013) or P(Dec2020)?  Presumably it goes down.  Right?

Why does everyone here squirm at this question?