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[lumen]

But this device does not exist yet. Right?
Shouldn't it sound rather like this:
we want to build a device. The device will work on a certain principle which we tested and proved it works.

It's rather hard for an amateur to create and handle a technology to obtain a nano-scale thick product.

It could sound something like that depending on when you think this became a serious effort to build it.
To me, the serious effort started when Philip started work at Stanford University.
If you want to do your own testing, 35,000 USD will get you an ALD chamber off ebay.
2LOT has already been compromised, so finding better methods will just be a matter of time.

[sarkeizen]

Like I said "ID 10T error".

You just need to move the letters closer together!

Can you give me an example of a physical quantity exponentially increasing with respect to time without a unit?

A TROLL is someone who uses 27 posts to repeat himself again....and again....and again....and again....and ad infinity....

How about someone who writes posts which are simply vapid namecalling? Like calling someone a troll?  Apparently you're allowed a lot of those around here.

Anyone who takes the time to look can see each of my posts was a response to a specific statement by someone about something I had said. If you don't get how I was elucidating then perhaps you didn't understand the post to begin with.

I don't get what you are saying. The device does work, it has been proven, it has been tested, and you can even test it for yourself!

The idea that someone thinks that what is presented by Philip and to a lesser extent yourself is perhaps less than sufficient is entirely unintelligible to you should be an enormously huge red flag with fireworks that perhaps your belief extends much farther than the evidence can support.

Philip claims he made something and recorded some effect.  So did you.  Technically these aren't Quenco's even Philip doesn't call them that.  There is no fabricated Quenco.  Not to mention that Philip and you are simply assuming that what ever you think you observed is due to some effect that you are hoping can be replicated with these devices.  The idea that some might consider such evidence as rather weak.  Isn't exactly irrational.

Engineers and Stock Analysts really need to read Karl Popper (my apologies in advance to the sane subset of Engineers I've met)

[Madebymonkeys]

No one is saying that anyone has to believe in anything. 

A TROLL is someone who uses 27 posts to repeat himself again....and again....and again....and again....and ad infinity....

Disagree all that you want, but don't badger others who disagree, and don't say the same OLD thing again and never actually contribute anything.  A troll wastes good bandwidth and good oxygen. 

Merry Christmas ALL (even to all the Trolls!)  Jesus is the reason for MY season!

Cheers,

Bruce

To be fair, most of my posts have been questions and statements of fact (read them!!).
With regards to repeating things (something you are also guilty of), if anyone (PJH included) were in a position to answer some questions then I wouldn't repeat.

Without scientific proof (Quenco is claimed to exist and is proven 100% - sorry for repeating that!) then all your beliefs are just that.

[Bruce_TPU]

To be fair, most of my posts have been questions and statements of fact (read them!!).
With regards to repeating things (something you are also guilty of), if anyone (PJH included) were in a position to answer some questions then I wouldn't repeat.

Without scientific proof (Quenco is claimed to exist and is proven 100% - sorry for repeating that!) then all your beliefs are just that.

I wasn't writing concerning you, but if your conscience is bothering you, or if the shoe fits, hey, who am I to disagree.

I have NO belief system about quenco, other than I believe that PH believes in his project.  I am patiently waiting for what ever month PH decides to demo.  I have said to you and to the real troll, that to continue to verbally cut PH to shreds with innuendos, mismanagment accusations, etc., ad nausua is a WASTE OF TIME and prolongs STRIFE.  It will not hurry nor change the schedule, it adds nothing to the scientific discussion, provides no experiments, no builds, but simply PROLONGS STRIFE.  And I have had enough of it.

So many good member of OU.com have quit because they are sick of the *?*&^ talked about, and that no one builds anything or experiments anymore.  (very few, at most)

And the REAL TRoll can say the same thing 27 times in 27 different ways, with his snide, arrogant remarks, but he STILL says the same thing.  And yes SARKEIZEN, I am talking about you.

Cheers,

Bruce

[sarkeizen]

I wasn't writing concerning you, but if your conscience is bothering you, or if the shoe fits, hey, who am I to disagree.

I have NO belief system about quenco, other than I believe that PH believes in his project.

Total and utter lie.  You believe that what Philip describes is plausible.  You believe that Philip is capable of delivering said plausible idea.  I could probably list an easy half dozen beliefs you have other than "Oh only Philip believes"

I am patiently waiting for what ever month PH decides to demo.

I'm patiently waiting for some people to realize that Philip has made this decision many times...and each time failed to produce a device.

  I have said to you and to the real troll, that to continue to verbally cut PH to shreds with innuendos, mismanagment accusations,

Where exactly is the innuendo?  Being a bad manager is absolutely correct - Philip himself has agreed with me.   Not to mention that it's a logical consequence of believing that Philip isn't a liar and that the Quenco device isn't the problem. 

etc., ad nausua is a WASTE OF TIME

Again nobody elected you (or mrsean2k) to the high-and-mighty-council-of-what-is-and-is-not-a-waste-of-time.  Sorry you prefer that belief...why not just try and deal with the diversity that is life? Instead of badgering people into your belief system.   I'm perfectly cool with the fact that people here want to hide from some of the logical problems that come from Philip's repeated failures to produce a device.  It's like watching a doomsday cult without the funny ending.

It will not hurry nor change the schedule, it adds nothing to the scientific discussion

It adds valuable information as to how seriously we should take Philips claims.   This is, as has been mentioned a few times simply a logical consequence.

And I have had enough of it.

How about you simply stop creating all the strife?  So far you seem to be a primary cause.  You know, with your vapid namecalling...just a thought.

So many good member of OU.com have quit because they are sick of the *?*&^ talked about, and that no one builds anything or experiments anymore.  (very few, at most)

Well perhaps you should be having your little tantrum at Philip?  So far he has built nothing. Heck as far as this thread goes all you're doing is talking crap, vapid crap at that not even a logical argument and you sure don't appear to be building anything.  So perhaps you can yell at yourself in the mirror for awhile.

And the REAL TRoll can say the same thing 27 times in 27 different ways, with his snide, arrogant remarks

What same thing am I saying?  You keep leaving that out.

And yes SARKEIZEN, I am talking about you.

When aren't you?  Take a nap, relax.