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lumen

#860
January 23, 2013, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: sarkeizen on January 23, 2013, 06:28:16 PM
Are you saying that it couldn't be done on a CPU lacking a privileged mode? (e.g. Rings 0,1,2 on the x86)

I'm saying it could be done on a CPU with privileged mode.
On other CPUs it would be dependent on their specific resources, interrupts, timers, range of calls and jumps and other available external hardware.



sarkeizen

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January 23, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
Quote from: lumen on January 23, 2013, 07:03:23 PM
On other CPUs it would be dependent on their specific resources, interrupts, timers, range of calls and jumps and other available external hardware.
Please provide a set of minimal constraints for a CPU which would make it certain that the halting problem can not be solved on it.

I realize that you, not having very much background in math might find the above statement difficult to understand.

Think of it like this:

Describe a processor or reference a real one and a case where it is unable to solve the halting problem.  You will be able to tell if the case is minimal if the halting problem can be solved by adding a privileged execution mode.

i.e. a 6502 which only has access to human input and memory can never solve the halting problem.  However if it had a privileged running mode (e.g. Ring0) it could solve the halting problem.

sarkeizen

#862
January 24, 2013, 08:55:36 AM
Well that was fun...I wonder if lumen has conceded the point yet?  I wonder if he realizes he's trapped yet? or that his stated algorithm for detecting infinite loops doesn't meet our requirements?  Which is another way of saying that is to say it doesn't work!  I hope I'm not 15 like lumen said, otherwise that would be pretty humiliating for a 30 year old engineer/programmer to be schooled by a 15 year old.

If anyone else doesn't understand where lumen is wrong, or wants to pick up the argument where lumen left off then feel free to post.

Bruce_TPU

#863
January 24, 2013, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: sarkeizen on January 24, 2013, 08:55:36 AM
Well that was fun...I wonder if lumen has conceded the point yet?  I wonder if he realizes he's trapped yet? or that his stated algorithm for detecting infinite loops doesn't meet our requirements?  Which is another way of saying that is to say it doesn't work!  I hope I'm not 15 like lumen said, otherwise that would be pretty humiliating for a 30 year old engineer/programmer to be schooled by a 15 year old.

If anyone else doesn't understand where lumen is wrong, or wants to pick up the argument where lumen left off then feel free to post.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

sarkeizen

#864
January 24, 2013, 12:08:32 PM
...and while the rest of us are talking math and science Bruce_TPU comes in to whine...perhaps because he hasn't been able to participate.  Don't worry Bruce_TPU I'm sure there's some thread going on that involves construction paper and crayons...perhaps building a OU heat engine from it!

It's interesting that according to Bruce_TPU being right about something that is, for a computer science student about as fundamental as 1 + 1 = 2.  Is conceited. Also it seems he can't tell the difference between a formally proved theorem and asserting one is right because one can't doubt himself - sort of like lumen does.

I confess I'm a little eager to crush lumen's argument (and is astronomical arrogance along with).  He was going down the garden path so very nicely but as I've said, perhaps he realizes that he's done in and sodded off to nurse his ego.
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