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[profitis]

Yawn,,I give them childrens questions and they give me requests in return.please step in @phil hardcastle.

[sarkeizen]

Yawn,,I give them

You keep hiding your argument then blame me for not answering it.  Ho-hum.

[profitis]

If contact is needed to establish a contact potential difference then I have a very legit ground on which to float my hypothesis of reversability @ sarkeizen because it will mean that the system's favoured entropy state will strictly depend on our switch being open or closed. If contact is not needed to create a contact potential difference to the full extent of a contacted one then my reversability hypothesis falls away because it will mean that there's only one favoured entropy state regardless of our switch.got it @sarkeizen? That's the dilemma here and I need more info from experts

[sarkeizen]

If contact is needed to establish a contact potential difference then I have

If you want to be humiliated then please produce a formal argument.  Starting from a textbook cite and ending in the conclusion violating 2LOT.  If you want to keep your argument secret.  Fine.  Nobody will help you find a problem.  That's your business.  If you don't know how to produce a formal argument you can just ask.

The rules have been the same for months.  I don't play "guess my argument".

[Philip Hardcastle]

profitis is 100% correct, MarkE and Sarcastic have for dozens of posts avoided answering a simple question clearly posed by a simple diagram. Is this because they do not know the answer? is it because they are not prepared to be frank? or is it that their sole purpose on this site is to knock and criticise?


profitis has shown a diagram of two dissimilar metals, these metals have a starting condition where they are uncharged, he then shows a connection and a switch.


Next he states the switch is closed, he asserts electrons will flow from the low work function metal to the higher work function metal.


Now surely MarkE who lectures everyone about almost everything could manage to accept this as a validly stated starting condition and first action.


Then profitis argues that the flow of electrons will cool one of the metals.


He then states that a thermal and charged state equilibrium will be reached.


Next he says that the switch is opened, he argues that electrons will migrate from the high work function metal to the low work function metal via the vacuum. He calls this leakage and states that wiki says all capacitors have leakage.


Lastly it is profitis' position that the whole cycle can be restarted once the metal plates are back to neutral charge.


This is a simple and clearly stated challenge by profitis, all MarkE and Sarcastic have to do is to tell profitis why it would not work, but no, instead we get endless moronic comments by them that amount to avoiding the posed problem.


MarkE and Sarcastic, your comments to date might be seen to demonstrate to the members of overunity your real motives, tell profitis what is wrong with his idea, or stop your incessant bickering and leave in shame.


I will give you a week to answer profitis, otherwise I will tell everyone the simple answer and then everyone can see what MarkE and Sarcastic truly are.


Of course if you do answer profitis with a sensible and direct response to his challenge you will no doubt prove to the forum that what you have to say is based upon some knowledge, and not simple naysaying.


So far I must say that the lack or response, by forum members against unsupported negativity, does nothing for the reputation of this site as a forum to openly discuss energy concepts and ideas.