Antonio Romero: Omega RF5000 and TK AMGPP Orion Power Plant (?)

[John Roberts]

I have been some time checking the rf5000 info and I have spoken to someone who is close to Mr.Antonio. They havent said that they have built the aeroplane. What they have told me is that they have been able to reduce the weight of the generator to make it possible to fit into a light aircraft(70kg)and it fits. They confirmed power output being apox 150HP which is enough to do the engine and flight testing which has already begun but not completed until 100% sure of no possible energy/engine failures because once up in the air you have to get back down and the better in one piece!

The other point about the 500mm USD isnt or hasnt got anything to do with them and they also have told the police that there are people requesting for funds for something which isnt for sale and doesnt need investment as they have their own funds for their own R&D programme.

They have also confirmed that they have already built 2 power plants a 500kw and a 1mw plant which are going through final testing. The location hasnt been disclosed but I am sure that they are doing it in Spain due to my contacts who have helped me verify and help me to get access to the right people to clarify this story.

Due to some people stating that they owned the patents and technology he had to prove in a very short time span (days)that he could build a generator and prove to( others) that these impostors where crooks to which he built at home a DIY version which is what we see on the videos on the web. After doing the DIY version he was proven to be telling the truth but as always proven guilty before innocent and then apologies.... but as they have stated too many years of the same kind of people trying to destroy his reputation.

The two other power plants are built and working in a secure building and will only been used once they believe its secure for the technology to be used and protected for external access(Industrial spies). He doesnt get into contact with anyone directly because he is always been followed and his emails are hacked. As they still only want to use this technology to create electricity(energy) for the "Eye of Osiris project" he doesnt believe that he has to give any explanations to anyone.

The reason going to with the Technokontrol people is that they are preparing a global food production project and they need the power plant and they also know that this would make their project more financially viable as they would be able to produce all types of food with no energy running costs and thus making it extremely viable. As the technology will be used to produce food this will keep him out of harms way as he wont be in the oil industries firing line as it will be only used for this project and not for sale.

I cant see anything or understand people when they try to destroy someones credibility without any reason. He regrets having gone onto the radio programme because he didnt know that they were recording it and even less that the so-called lawyer was using him. He has never met the lawyer but on the radio programme it seems that they were together which isnt true and its was a recorded programme and edited which made things even worse because he knows that this hasnt helped him and he has always tried to keep out of everyones way and for once that he did decide to talk but believing it to be between professionals and to inform of the technology progress of the rf5000 to a "media" friend he ends up being called everything under the sun. He has learnt his lesson and will never go public with anything again and just wants to get on with his business. As they stated, "people can do two things, they can believe us or dont, thats upto to them and only them".

I personally believe them as they havent any reason to tell me all of this and they are just sick and tired of all the B.S. I believe that the aeroplane engine will be a great way of proving that this technology works and that it can be applied to many different power plants. They were contacted with regards of using several smaller power plants in a TGV-(High Speed train) train by an international train manufacturer so they must have something which must work.

I hope that this will prove to everyone that we should at least try to hear both sides of the story and just by picking up small parts of the story/info on the web we only tarnish someones reputation without any reason. Again if you want to believe him you can and if you dont no problem either way but they havent asked for anything and that for me at least gives him the benefit of the doubt. Sooner or later he will be able to prove himself and we may never know either way to which would be a shame as most inventors end up selling off their technologies to the big corporations for its "safe keeping" or "destruction" and we the consumer never benefit from these technological advances.

[Riley103]

Posting in Gravity Powered because I think it belongs there from what I saw. (Centrifugal force?)

Don´t ask me how and what he is doing but the claims that are made are something like:

Two (electromagnet) generators who both drive a single iron construction with weights added will give 2800 rpm´s.
Then when a load is placed on the generated output... The rpms stay the same or briefly go higher.
Designer: Antonio Romero (Spain) - not far from me actually.

There is nothing in english about this - you can use Google translate on these pages.

TK Omega RF5000 Generator
http://www.technokontrol.com/en/current-projects/generator.php

TK AMGPP Orion Advanced Magnetic Generator Power Plant
http://www.technokontrol.com/en/products/orion.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ERYReuQIrA

And another movie "proving" the principle: http://www.technokontrol.com/press-media/tk-rf5000-orion.html

Don´t ask me what they are doing exactly.

The claim today is Technokontrol has built the principle into an aircraft which can fly without any fuel.
Delivered, tested and passed. Who knows?

Anyone heard of them? Romero does ring a bell - there are claims of a patent granted 15 years ago.

I also think so.
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[diegoviz]

Hi
Everything sound quite reasonable (protect the technology, etc) unless by several factors that lead to believe that all this is an scam or at least a "project" to get somebody's money in exchange of bits of smoke and so on.

The factors:

(a) Antonio Romero "patented the technology 17 years ago" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ERYReuQIrA) Nobody has seen the patent.

Romero would not have any negative critizism if working silently to achieve a real OU generator: The problem arises when he publish that he is searching for 500 million euro (me too by the way) - http://www.trinityatierra.com/2012/01/27/el-generador-omega-rf5000-busca-500-millones/- and for this he is showing a wierd assembly of induction motors, a primitive inertia assembly and a hydraulic pump, all connected without explanation.

(b) TechknoKontrol (http://www.technokontrol.com/en/company/index.php) They say (of themselves) that they are a "market leader..." This is bullshit; The company was created in april 2011 - nobody can a market leader in anything in just 12 months; And was "generously" funded with the astonishing amount of ¡¡ 3.000 euros !! Their "headquarters" are based in filthy village lost in the middle of Spain.  (http://orca.tenea.com/sites/default/files/borme/html/2011/TE/TECHNO_KONTROL_EXCO_SL__804738.html)

Their "production plant" is shown in a video on their own web page and is not a modern plant futhermore it looks like at least 1o year old, I would guess, USA plan (just by looking to the FANUC robot models used and the type of machinery)
They have four "subsidiaries"  in Cataluña (T. cat investments, ; T. Cat Research; T Cat Global; T. Cat Innovation and Development.) all created with a minimun amount of capital  (http://empresas.informa.es/Empresa_TECHNOKONTROL-CAT-RESEARCH.html)
Nobody make so many firms the very same day and so poorly funded unless have the intention to "plat and "cheat" with them.

No try to see "their product" in the webpage--they sell what you see in the video, SMOKE

[John Roberts]

We also checked them out and they have several plants in different countries and the one in Cuenca is a new one they are going to open now. At least someone is trying to create employment and doing something as Spain needs it more than anyone in Europe, so, I wouldnt be kicking down anyone trying to create one single job in the worst financial country after Greece.

I think you should do a little more due diligence and see who really is behind technokontrol and you will be extremely shocked and their capitalization is one of the largest I have seen, so, again check it out.

I havent seen the Coca-Cola o Pepsi patent so I dont know why anyone, him, you or I should go around proving anyone what he or you may have done or patented. Who are we to ask for a copy of anything? Why dont you or anyone print out their passport copies, home deeds, bank accounts and share it around the world just because someone asks you to do so to prove that you exist?

Again, if you read my post he states very clearly that he isnt asking for anthing from anyone and he has gone to police and taken legal action against these people who are asking for "investment funds". What else can he do? They cant prove anything because we also checked them out and I agree those are bullshitters and dreamers because there isnt 500 euros in Spain even less 500mm.

I am not trying to defend them but at least I spoke to them and they seemed pretty sincere and we even called the radio station and confirmed if he taken legal action againt the so called "fund seekers" and they confirmed it was true and that before he even did the so called "radio interview" they had all of docs checked and verified becuase they didnt want to have any legal mess with having someone claiming stories and they were also happy with their investigations and even had met him. After having more than 30,000 hits on their radio website with regards of the generator they asked him for another interview and they were shocked to hear from him that he didnt know that they had aired it and that he didnt or wouldnt ever speak to any media channel again especailly when he realized that the so called "fund seekers " where using him, thus going to the police.

The way I see it is that if they, you or anyone are trying to do anything positive with regards to creating technology, employment or money good for them, for you or anyone. Why always being so negative about this and that, if they make some money one day great but what are their real chances against the oil industries,patent robbers, etc. Why dont we ask him or any other inventor how many hours during his life he has thought, worked, developed this possible generator or any technology? What is ones life, time, personal investment, risk, family worth? Nothing? 1mm ? What? Why if someone spends they entire lives doing this for whatever reason personal, commercial or just for a hobby worthless? Good for anyone who can make a buck for using their brains and trying their best. Thats why at least from my way of viewing life or maybe becuase of my age I always give a break to anyone. Of course before I can do this I also feel that one should seek out the time to do some due diligence properly.

I have been very fortunate in life and I have seen some great inventions and met some great inventors and I would state that 99% of them deserve a break and that only a coulpe have made real big money but of course when they have its because they have sold it to the "big boys". Small inventors dont get any help and we at least as the public who may benefit from it we should at least be fair.

I believe that he is half german and half spanish and Spain is a great country for inventors and since I hace retired in Spain I can tell you they are bags of talent but the country is run by politicians thus not going anywhere but down hill and during the last year so many young, well educated people have been fired its just incredibe that anyone is even thinking of openning a business in Spain.

Well thats my opinion and I respect yours and I also hope that anyone reading this becomes a little bit more positive because things are going to get much worse then better especially in Spain so lets cross our fingers that all of these inventors do become rich and create many needed jobs for all of our familes and friends because otherwise we are going to lose the best educated and prepared generation ever working a McDonalds in the UAE or Irak.

All the best everyone.

[ALVARO_CS]

 Roberts
Thank you for your words, I agree 100%
As Spanish I can see your esteem for my country.
I also have been inquiring, and my conclusions are same as yours.
About the patent, Romero states clearly that he knows very well the procedures, and that in any case he´ll patent anything by parts, and not in a single patent.
Technically, the main concept is a rotor made with a superconductor alloy, submerged in liquid nitrogen, which is quite plausible.


As always,the vultures seek for scraps.
Regards
Alvaro