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Electronically generate rotating magnetic fields

Started by Eighthman, May 01, 2012, 07:46:45 PM

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CompuTutor

#10
May 02, 2012, 08:02:09 PM
I remember something with a fancy name like "inclinometer magnetometer",
it was a glass ball, with a smaller glass ball inside, with fluid between them.

The center ball is free to move, as it is suspended in the fluid,
and had a rod magnet in it to act like a compass to earths field.

It would not only show magnetic north for us northern hemisphere folk,
and also the penetration angle at the location it was used at too.

It was in a plastic gimbal frame with gradient markings to interpret it.

Anyone know where these can be had for cheap for those building TPU's ?

If the damping factor isn't to high, it could help adjust interactive frequency sets.



Easy enough to make one from a pair of those inexpensive
two-piece gumball machine toy containers, and a magnet.

A very thin kitchen oil should allow a fairly fast spin too...

Bruce_TPU

#11
May 02, 2012, 09:56:16 PM
Quote from: sidneo on May 01, 2012, 10:16:13 PM

Hi bruce,


do you think i should use strait wires in a cylinder  or a toroid to achieve this .
i need a solid state rotating field on my circuit .
link : [size=78%]http://magpowersystem.free.fr/Page_5_fichiers/Circuit%20simple.gif[/size]

Hi Sidneo,

I think you should think along these lines....  ;)

http://www.overunity.com/12144/eblv-genmotor-design-by-bruce/msg321090/#msg321090

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Eighthman

#12
May 04, 2012, 08:30:29 PM
Holy Cow! Read this exhaustive analysis of the TPU derived from hours of examining photos.
http://www.slideshare.net/niculaegeorge/a-detail-study-of-the-steven-mark-tpu-10721103

Very impressive

pauldude000

#13
November 26, 2012, 07:45:11 AM
Something for you to consider. First, you will notice that the original wiring diagram I had posted forever and ten years ago included the setup they demonstrate. What is wrong with the picture is that these coils will not make a rotating field......


The field, instead of rotating, swings back and forth, as they are exciting it with AC according to their waveform. AC reinforces back emf.


It would only appear to rotate. (Though this appearance would be in two dimensions as soon as the field itself reverses due to back emf.)


True rotation would be awesome, but inherently extremely difficult. It involves a ton of math, and relatively precise wire lengths (Including lead in and connective wires have to be included in the calculations.)


It has to be high frequency (Due to the speed of transmission of electricity in a wire. Higher frequency, shorter wire in the coil.) Low frequencies can cause rotation as easily as high frequencies, but the coil length can be astronomical, and the speed of rotation will be inherently comparatively slow.


I guess the ultimate question is which kind of rotation are you after?


Linear in relation to the circumference? (Coils aimed inline of circumference with magnetic lines following circumference. Very hard, limited use. One Tesla patent that I know of.)


Diagonal to the circumference? (Coils aimed at point of rotation, magnetic lines of force cutting across the circumference. . Relatively easy, examine any large size AC motor with both rotor and stater windings. or in a different configuration a small ac induction motor.)


Have some fun, make a stack of six and do both, with each layer counter rotating in relation to the one above, with serious juice..... Just let me know when, so I can find shelter.  ;D
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#14
November 27, 2012, 02:39:59 AM
If anyone is still looking for a circuit, a doc is available from

http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/TIME/RotatingFields.doc

and a ton of info at

http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm


You can use this to drive the coils in this page.


http://www.edn.com/article/457397-Electronically_generate_rotating_magnetic_fields.php


I heard SM was into audio engineering  :-X
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