Fernando`s Force multiplier

[i_ron]

Nice workshop, I'm jealous. I especially like the meter shelf, and the clips to hold the bags in the wastebaskets.
Is that a real Kennedy tool chest, or one of the cheap Harbor Freight knockoffs? (I have one of each; the Kennedy is nicer of course, as it ought to be, at four times the price.)

With the setup you've got it will be easy to do comparison testing. You can simply remove your connecting rod and short crankthrows from the backside and put 1-to-1 pulleys and a connecting belt between the wheels (brake disks?) on the front side, and then compare outputs of that simple control system, to the outputs of the full, con-rod connected system.

ETA: Are the short crankthrows the same length (radius, arm, whatever you want to call it) on both wheels? If they are the same, then a 1-1 pulley arrangement might be a good comparison test. If they are different, this makes the action different than a belt-and-pulley arrangement, because even though the speeds are different the wheels will still make 1-1 rotations, whereas with a belt and different sized pulleys they won't.

Hi TK, good observations, lol,


yes, both crank throws are the same length.

And yes, lots of testing coming up


Yup, Genuine Kennedy kit, old style


Ron

[i_ron]

@Ron:

Is it correct, you will connect a dynamo (generator) to the second yellow wheel ? And then one hopes that the generator produces more power than was used to drive the electric motor (connected to the first yellow wheel) ?

This is probably a pretty dumb question. I just want to be sure that I understand the whole concept correctly.

Any way, I am impressed by the size of the machine and the craftsmanship!

Greetings, Conrad

Thank you Conrad! yes that is correct.


Ron

[i_ron]

@TK and Ron: Another question concerning the (alleged) functioning of this device.

The device should have a greater output in case one puts some weights on the bars connecting the yellow wheels?

Greetings, Conrad

Correct again, although this has yet to be proven out


Ron

[i_ron]

I dunno, I've just started thinking about this system, and I've confused myself already. Let me have another cup of coffee and see what percolates.

TK


There is some information on another list by Arto that helps to understand this


http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11282-awarded-machine-multiply-force-motor-free-energy-4.html


The page four graphics.  I started to post over there and then the list went dead... but has come back with Arto's posts. However It is beyond my ability to post a picture over there so put them up here, glad you guys have found it already.


OK, this was just a run to see if it would run. I find out that I need more weight in my flywheels, so  will look for a little heavier brake rotors, not a problem as they throw them out by the ton.


Ron

[TinselKoala]

Heh... my brain is so numb these days that I had to build a small model to see what effects varying the throws and the conrod length would have. Of course the rotation rates are affected. I've even found one configuration where the drive wheel turns continuously and at constant speed in one direction and the driven wheel goes back and forth at varying speeds. But for smooth motion in the same direction the crank throws have to be equal.