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Radiant Electriciy Generated with Spark Gaps and Induction Coils - Theory

Started by bajac, May 07, 2012, 07:14:01 PM

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Floor

Quote from: onepower on September 25, 2021, 12:50:51 PM
floor
I would agree, however since all mass can be affected by changing forces so must the patterns of oscillation and apparent measurement of time.

It comes down to a single question...
Your clock just changed, do you believe time in the entire universe just changed or that your clock simply changed in some way?.

It's kind of neat that anyone could write any number of books, give countless lectures, post hundreds of times a day with pages of complex equations yet one simple question renders all this a mute point. Do you believe your clock changed in some way or time as we know it in the entire universe?.

Like any really good question nobody seems want to answer it, lol.

Regards
AC

@ onepower

This question ?

"Your clock just changed, do you believe time in the entire universe just changed or that your clock simply changed in some way?. "
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
onepower quote
"I would agree, however since all mass can be affected by changing forces so must the patterns of oscillation and apparent measurement of time."
end of that quote

             What do you mean by "Your clock simply changed in some way" ? 
You held back the hands for an hour, or, you and the clock go traveling at
some vastly different speed than did a reference clock ?

Not only the "apparent measurement of time" but the actual measurement of time.

It is not simply as if some clock's pendulum's swing changes, but also the speed of the
orbits of the electrons and so on ... all of it changes.

If one is moving with the clock, the speed of one's perception, (PHYSICAL neurological event)
of the clock hand motions is changed and so on. One cannot tell if the clock has sped up
or slowed down, because it has done neither, from one's own perspective.

From the perspective of the clock, time changed in the rest of the universe.

From the perspective of the rest of the universe time changed in the clock.

    That is relativity.



Floor

Quote from: onepower on September 30, 2021, 07:36:17 PM
Floor
You didn't answer the question and as I said nobody probably will.

Here's an easier question... why would you think the material properties of an object, our clock, wouldn't change at very high velocity?.

It seems pretty common sense considering space is not empty but full of plasma, high energy particles, radiation and em waves. Obviously something moving faster would interact with more stuff more often. Yet somehow everyone  got it in there head that time somehow miraculously changed. It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen and cannot understand  how anyone could come to that conclusion.

I mean it wasn't that long ago that claiming time was variable would be met with hysterical laughter. Like little Joe thinking he could fly by tugging on his boot straps, lol. Yet somehow most bought into this strange belief. 

Meanwhile nix85 is trying to argue he's immortal, lol. Things are getting really weird out there and I'm not sure anyone should be giving people advanced technology. Many are even throwing around the nuclear option because they actually believe they cannot die... fruit loops and unicorns.

Regards
AC

"Interacting with more stuff more often" is not at all the explanation Einstein gives in
his theories of relativity.

"I mean it wasn't that long ago that claiming time was variable would be met with hysterical laughter."

Are you referring to laughter as in a free and natural expression, or the contrived way in which
a feigned laughter is sometimes a method of ridiculing others. as is "LOL" so often such a method?

"Like little Joe thinking he could fly by tugging on his boot straps, lol. Yet somehow most bought into this strange belief. "

Really? How many people, just like little Joe, think they can fly by tugging on their
boot straps ?

"Yet somehow everyone got it in there head that time somehow miraculously changed."

Well I guess that depends on whether or not one sees life as "miraculous".  Seen as
miraculous or not, time does change.

"It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen and cannot understand  how anyone could come to that conclusion. "

What is perhaps even more bizarre is that sometimes, even though we have eyes,
we yet refuse to see.

"Meanwhile nix85 is trying to argue he's immortal, lol."

                  lol ?

"Many are even throwing around the nuclear option because they actually believe they cannot die... fruit loops and unicorns."

I'm inclined to believe that our fears are what underlie most of our expressions of violence.

  best wishes
               floor

Floor

Quote from: onepower on September 30, 2021, 07:36:17 PM
Floor
You didn't answer the question and as I said nobody probably will.

Here's an easier question... why would you think the material properties of an object, our clock, wouldn't change at very high velocity?.

It seems pretty common sense considering space is not empty but full of plasma, high energy particles, radiation and em waves. Obviously something moving faster would interact with more stuff more often. Yet somehow everyone  got it in there head that time somehow miraculously changed. It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen and cannot understand  how anyone could come to that conclusion.

I mean it wasn't that long ago that claiming time was variable would be met with hysterical laughter. Like little Joe thinking he could fly by tugging on his boot straps, lol. Yet somehow most bought into this strange belief. 

Meanwhile nix85 is trying to argue he's immortal, lol. Things are getting really weird out there and I'm not sure anyone should be giving people advanced technology. Many are even throwing around the nuclear option because they actually believe they cannot die... fruit loops and unicorns.

Regards
AC

I have answered your first question twice now, in two distinct replies.

As for your second "easier question". It is based in so much misunderstanding on your
part that it cannot be answered.  Its premise is twice, incorrect.

"why would you think the material properties of an object, our clock, wouldn't change at very high velocity?."

i.e. Why would onepower think that birds being lighter than air wouldn't  be the reason they
can fly. ?