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Overunity Machines Forum



Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower

Started by thankGod, June 25, 2012, 11:57:43 PM

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No clue 25

So would there be anyway to collect static or some other form of energy from the surrounding area of the machine.  It seems like there mite be some better ways of getting overunity.  I am probably just going to start building a 5kw axial flux generator and c where it goes from there.  Idk about continuing with the chas campbell design cuz from all the info on this site and on google make me feel like there should be no moving parts and collect everything from the environment around me. Maybe a vawt or a recirculating water wheel system.

I'm glad to see many more objective minds on this site.  That's what I came here for.  Thanks

a.king21

Quote from: No clue 25 on January 16, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
So would there be anyway to collect static or some other form of energy from the surrounding area of the machine.  It seems like there mite be some better ways of getting overunity.  I am probably just going to start building a 5kw axial flux generator and c where it goes from there.  Idk about continuing with the chas campbell design cuz from all the info on this site and on google make me feel like there should be no moving parts and collect everything from the environment around me. Maybe a vawt or a recirculating water wheel system.

I'm glad to see many more objective minds on this site.  That's what I came here for.  Thanks
You can always develop the design into the Bedini  "Watson" machine.

No clue 25

That's kinda what I'm leaning towards.  I was actually just looking into the designs for those.  Seems like some how we need to get away from moving parts or learn to optimize the movements in moving parts.  Or maybe find the shapes that channel natural energy in our environment(vortex).  Has anybody seen one of those actually powering a house?  I saw one replica that was running a 5kw ac unit.  That's more than enough for anything in a house.

deanc5000

Hey No Clue, i happen to believe in the vortex as a possible aid to collecting excess energy. They are a natural example of self organizing matter. What if you allowed the vortex to self organize then disrupted it at the right moment to capture the kinetic energy? I have a turbine project started and I am using some of Schaubergers ideas to reduce friction in rotating systems. So far I can create a partial vacuum around an open air rotating disc rotor that reduces the current draw of the prime mover by about 15%. Basically turning the whole rotor into a double sided Laval nozzle. Its still early and I have more work to do but Ill eventually add a sealed cover so I can test heavier gasses like sulfur hexafluoride. This gas reaches its speed of sound at only 70m/s. So what happens to a vortex when the core reaches the sound barrier? I intend to find out. For one thing, any acoustic pressure waves can only propagate in the downstream direction. Like its an acoustic rectifier. I also plan to allow the system to resonate at its natural frequency. These are all the phenomena that were probably going on in the Schauberger designs. Whether they worked or not I can not say, but its too intriguing for me to ignore. I wonder what he could have accomplished today with computer simulation , cnc manufacturing, composite materials, 3D printing, etc, etc.

I did not plan to self loop the motor and generator in my design but it would only take an hour or so to do it. I am very skeptical about the so called mo gen loopers. Maybe because electron pressure (voltage) is spongy and some mechanical couplings (belts) can slip or exhibit spongyness, some resonance is set up. Naaa, i doubt it.

An early test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qfrA978QAU

markdansie

Quote from: Grumage on January 15, 2014, 12:26:32 PM
Dear Mark.

This statement in itself  also begs questions!! Who's replications ?? Another question I have, did Chas Campbell's device self run ?? Was this witnessed??

Please be aware that I am not being confrontational. I, like you, would really like to believe that something might work !! This is the major reason for being a member of OU.Com after all !!  :)

Cheers Grum.


Hi Grum
It did self run when it was run up to speed but was witnessed to slow down as the energy stored was consumed to overcome  friction. When a load was placed on it without any other energy source it would slow down and stop pretty quickly.


I know people who were very sympathetic and wanted to believe in this that did go and see it first hand and were disappointed and realized it was a combination of measurement errors and stored energy.


I did not see the device first hand but trusted the assessment of the people who did see it.


No one has ever replicated it successfully as has been pointed out by other posters


Kind Regards
mark