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Joule Motor

Started by Lynxsteam, July 22, 2012, 11:54:57 PM

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synchro1

I finished the frame for my twin Spiral Joule Motor. I mounted a nice 1" tube spinner on precision ball bearings and attached a timing wheel with several small trigger magnets.in a wooden photographic box. Tomorrow, I plan to shop for and install the Hall effect, and Zener diode for my first replication test.
One Spiral is Quadfilar. The spinner accelerates when a tailored LED light bulb load is applied directly to the high voltage a.c. output. I believe this speed up effect is a cosequence of Lenz delay, and that Lynxstream may gain additional propulsion, from a multi wrap trifilar power coil with a bifilar series wraped output coil interlaced.
I imagine how a spinning neo sphere might store recovered road power as a flywheel battery, to replace the dead $3k NiCadHy in my Honda Insight Hybrid. An alternator that could charge while running could hydrolyze HHO, and srore it in an onboard compressor tank, as a second lightweight "battery". The Insight's clean air sensor shuts the gas off to the injectors completely in favor of the less noxious HHO.

Lynxsteam

The acceleration was coming from a mistake I made.  I had mistakenly wired the secondary so that it kicked the motor over on the other half of the cycle.  What this did was made it so that when the main coil fired through the transistor, the voltage dropped slightly under 12 volts and the zener didn't conduct through the secondary.  When the transistor switched off there was a flyback spike and with the voltage now over 12 volts the zener would conduct a little and the motor would kick over the other way.  Rectified AC is over battery voltage in this way.
So in essence the motor will run very fast when voltage is slightly over 12 volts, and slow down when voltage drops below.
I was able to keep the motor running for quite some time in this mode with voltage hovering between 12.02 - 11.99 volts.
Is there extra energy in surplus of input?  No, but if you count the torque at the shaft it is a very low draw motor.
Perfect timing helps quiet the motor.  Transistor on at 10-15 degrees ATDC, and off at 10-15 BBDC (before bottom dead center).

I will try putting a 12 volt zener in front of the primary coil to keep voltage right at 12 volts and see if this smooths out the running.  Excess voltage will hopefully back charge the battery and not just go to more amps in the motor.

Hopefully you can build on this concept and discover some more interesting things.

Also, I can draw a much simpler to build setup for anyone wanting to play with this.

JouleSeeker

QuoteAlso, I can draw a much simpler to build setup for anyone wanting to play with this. - Lynxsteam

That sounds good to me, Lynx!  would appreciate it.  (I'm working on two other builds at this time also, non-moving, but would like to try your latest stuff and learn from it!)


e2matrix

Nice work Lynxstream!   I haven't read this whole thread but the first thing I noticed was what you mentioned about it putting out a higher voltage than what is required to run it.  That is exactly what is going on with UFOPolitics Asymmetric motors over on EF in case you might have missed it.  Member UFOPolitics is very advanced in motor research and has been doing work with them for many years, has patents on some of his work and is now putting together info on Asymmetry which is somewhat related to Tom Bearden's work and of course Tesla is very much involved in his inspiration.  His dual commutator motor does put out a higher voltage on the generator end than it takes to run it.   You might find some things of interest there.   I believe he designed servo motors for aerospace and I think it's great he's sharing all the info he has found.  A very altruistic sort too who is totally open source.   Just a warning though if you decide to visit the thread as things went haywire for a day or two due to some naysayers/agitators who I would say were like babies compared to the amount of knowledge and experience UFOPolitics has but they seemed to think they knew better so you can imagine the fireworks that followed ( hhisg + kiafb = fireworks )  LOL  if you read the whole thread you may understand that equation but don't worry it's not important to the motor work.  Thread here:  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11885-my-asymmetric-electrodynamic-machines.html


Lynxsteam

Thanks for the tip.  I have watched that thread at the energetic forum.  I am very familiar with those motors.  My passion is to see what can be done with aircore coils.  There is no iron or steel in the motors I am playing with except the stainless steel shaft which is non-magnetic.  Eddy currents in steel can be avoided and mitigated but cause heat.  Heat is wasted energy unless you want heat.  Its tough to run 3 amps through a tiny steel cored coil and not make things pretty hot.  30 awg wire is good for 1 amp so I am not sure how long these motors will run on 3 amps.  The Joule motor runs on 250 ma or less.

I will post another video soon just to show how the Joule Motor runs when tuned.  It runs very cool and smooth.  I am trying all sorts of weird things with earth grounding, antenna, running loads off the high voltage.  I haven't found anything like Over Unity, but still quite fun.

Now I am using the mistake I made with the secondary firing through on the second half of the cycle to my advantage.  I upped the resistor on the base to 400 ohms and still can't slow the motor down.  Charge on the capacitor across the bridge rectifier runs between 12 and 45 volts.

The other weird thing is the motor runs fine on less than 12 volts even though my theory about the 12 volt zener says the secondary shouldn't have much power.