Build Kits Available from PlasmEGR Noble Gases Engine

[TinselKoala]

I love your glowing plasma mug.  It's a gas.

Would you believe.... I can put 1800 liters of vacuum in there... and still have room for more?

[mscoffman]

By my estimates and calculations there is only 0.75Hp horsepower
is being generated by displays of the Plasmerg Popper. This power
is insufficient to deduce visible obvious implications about what
would occur in an engine running at small integer fractions of a
Noble Gas Engines spec'd power, without the use of instrumentation.
A product needs to be competitive with the internal combustion engine
in both output power per unit density in terms of weight and volume
or it won't justify it's material costs. So it is insufficient to say that
device is promising because it has some unusual characteristics even
if those characteristics are surprising (like self running) if it can't be
competitive with internal combustion engines on primary issues. It
seems to me as if Inteligentry is trying to get us to believe something
that the Plasma Popper can do does serve as a model to the final
engine. Some of these things include: "show thermodynamics law
violations", "shows that the output energy is coming totally out of fuel
gas mix", and "that is not getting it's energy solely from the environment".
I wish Inteligentry all the best in their upcoming demonstration.
But until that happens we need to know we have been shown precious
little proof of engine operation so far and we need to keep our options
open because of that. There is very little that I could see to justify
additional delays in such a demonstration. 

:S:MarkSCoffman

[TinselKoala]

Elastomer O-rings for piston rings, in an engine filled with a noble gas mixture, expanding and contracting with sufficient force to turn the assembled engine?

Come on, give me a break. How long do you expect it to run EVEN IF IT WOULD RUN... ten minutes?

Go down to your local party supply store and buy an elastomer (not Mylar) balloon full of helium. This helium in the balloon will be at very slightly over atmospheric pressure... just enough to keep the balloon stretched to shape.

Put it up in the corner of your living room or laboratory.

Check it tomorrow with a 12 inch micrometer caliper, Mitsutoyo brand for accuracy. (just kidding... the Mark 1 eyeball is much cheaper and for our purposes here, sufficiently accurate enough by far.)
Check it again the next day.
And the next.
Report your results here.

YOU CANNOT KEEP Helium, especially, confined behind elastomer seals at any positive pressure. Especially if those seals are sliding against other surfaces, lubricated or not. Other noble gases ditto, in proportion to their atomic weights.

The reason my little helium engine above slows and eventually stops is because the helium diffuses out (its seals are liquid: oilfilms) and is replaced by ordinary old air, which doesn't work nearly as well.... in heat engines.... as helium.

(ETA: I don't mean _you_ , Mark, obviously. I mean YOU, who believe in Popper John.)

[sparks]

Weird on my ride home I was thinking about how a flurescent light increases frequency of a wave and here is somebody talking about noble gases which again appear to increase frequency of a wave.  I believe physics people call this inverse Thomson scattering or Crompton inverse scattering?  Then there is Mags post about Hutchinson.  Could we take an electrostatic field and shine some light through it and alter the wavelength of the light emitted?  I think Hutchinsons cells are 300 nanometer devices.  If Tesla said what I think he said a quarter wavelength dipole antennae is good for receiving due to electric field charging of the ends of the antennae. Most charge seperation per wave.  Then you have Leedskalin's coral whose skeleton creates 300nm cavities between succesive layers.  Been to the castle and it's 15 degrees cooler soon as you walk through the door because the coral stones are heatsinking the place.  You can walk up to coral which is in direct sunlight and is darker than limesone.  You burn your hand on the limestone but the coral cool.  This 300nm cavity is interesting because it is a 1/4 wavelength of the nearinfrared bands.   Sorry for this meaningless post just mind murmurring about coincidences.






















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[Omega_0]

Michael McKubre thinks its real.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dS1MsymF8hc#!


The only replication attempt I know of (using the kit of course):
http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659


More videos: http://www.rohnermachine.com/


PS: OP should correct the spelling in the thread title to make it appear in searches. I think this news is important.