Eds design

[F_Brown]

The uniqueness of Edwin Gray's design is based on two major principles:?

Einstein's photo-electric effect, and Tesla's radiant energy collector.

Everything else relates directly to pulse motors matters.

Anyway, has anybody else done actual research with quantitative results in this direction?

Best regards,

F. Brown

[ewitte]

I get the feeling the whole point in Cold electricity is ZERO amps.

I've been studing a design based on his ideas.  Actually your not too far from it.  The design runs at 1000v and 25ma.  IMO from reading off of it you can't really directly pull too much energy out.  Maybe enough to keep the battery charged or at least running for a few days/weeks.  But it runs about 2550 of RPM with very high torque.  It wouldn't be that hard to indirectly get power from it.  I'm modifying the design with a slightly longer shaft and putting a windmill alternator at the back end.  The windmill alternator will be whats used for power.

Eric

[gn0stik]

I get the feeling the whole point in Cold electricity is ZERO amps.

What would be the point of that? Without current all you have is potential. 0A = 0W since A(V)=W. Cold electricity exists all over the place. The second you introduce potential to a circuit you have current. Ever zap a doorknob with your finger? That's thousands of volts discharing right there, but the Amps are in a the ma range so it does nothing. The total power is very low. But it's a perfect example of potential building up with no place to go ( 0A ), until it has a circuit. You could do more damage with low voltage and say 5 amps. Converting "cold electricity" to a higher amp lower voltage is where we can get something that is capapble of doing work. Either that or developing a motor that can run on very low amps and can produce work capable powering more than a toy.

[fwalenda]

in eds early experiments he did not use a motor.the circit is the the key.you can power your whole house on just the circit.he would use a car battery to charge a cap to 3000 volts then would create a spark across a spark gap with a timming or control circit which goes back to the neg of the battery.(no free energy here).near the spark gap were just two peices of copper tubing which picked up the raidient event or as found by tesla the spark actually some how manufactures electrons.this is how he charged his battery and ran his motor nothing special about the motor.sorry for this very short explination but this is the jest of it.all ed did was copy teslas work.when he worked at nasa he worked with teslas assittant.this is probobly where he got his info from or the idea.tesla had a peirce arrow(car) running with this circit and an electric motor(80 hp).cant type that well as everyone now knows,so i will leave you peeps with some reading material on the subject.the free energy secrets of cold electricity by peter lindemann.this guy sells a book and video,with som other good books on his web site like the secrets of cold war tecnology all required reading if you peeps want to build the circit and or motor.i would attach a pdf of the book but im on dial up and its 20 or so megs.hope this helps you guys and girls.

[mikestocks2006]

in eds early experiments he did not use a motor.the circit is the the key.you can power your whole house on just the circit.he would use a car battery to charge a cap to 3000 volts then would create a spark across a spark gap with a timming or control circit which goes back to the neg of the battery.(no free energy here).near the spark gap were just two peices of copper tubing which picked up the raidient event or as found by tesla the spark actually some how manufactures electrons.this is how he charged his battery and ran his motor nothing special about the motor.sorry for this very short explination but this is the jest of it.all ed did was copy teslas work.when he worked at nasa he worked with teslas assittant.this is probobly where he got his info from or the idea.tesla had a peirce arrow(car) running with this circit and an electric motor(80 hp).cant type that well as everyone now knows,so i will leave you peeps with some reading material on the subject.the free energy secrets of cold electricity by peter lindemann.this guy sells a book and video,with som other good books on his web site like the secrets of cold war tecnology all required reading if you peeps want to build the circit and or motor.i would attach a pdf of the book but im on dial up and its 20 or so megs.hope this helps you guys and girls.

From the research I've done on this so far, I'll tend to agree with fwalenda.
Following the Tesla theories and observations, the motor in it self is secondary. The true additional energy input from the radiant event happens in that converter circuit, the one that has the sparkgap. The Key seems to be the ultra fast interruption of the spark discharge. That causes the radiant energy to be radiated from the high voltage rod and captured by the surrounding rods or collectors.

Now that you mentioned Peter Lindemann, there was a Free Energy Conference back in 2000 or 2001? Where Lindermann and Wooten participated.
I think Mr. Norman Wooten had acquired earlier some of Gray's motors and he was setting up a  machine shop to manufacture more. If I recall correctly some foreign investors were funding the facility and machining equipment. I haven't really found anything since. Have they made any? do they perform as claimed? It's been 5 years so I'd expect at least some basic production units to be available. If anyone has any more info please do post.