Eds design

[Spokane1]

Dear Promodoro,

According to John Bedini (he lives about 25 miles from here) that historical sketch was drawn by Ron Cole in 1973 (No relation to Marvin Cole) after he and John had visited E.V. Gray's shop in Van Nuys. The date on the sketch is when John redrew it. According to John, Ron was attempting to figure out how this system opered and was exploring a thought (while driving) about some kind of Zener avalanche negative resistance process that Ron was familur with from his extensive experiance in exotic solid state systems - some of them classified grovenment projects. The diode acually goes the opposite way. Check the polarity of the "triode" in the CSET patent and then check Gary Magratten's early work. I don't know about you but I have a pile of diodes in my "Hall of Flame" that attest to this little error.

Apparently the PIV of the diode you use doesn't need to be high. Gary used a 600V 60A model and he was able to get some ananomolus sparks (about 2" long which is about 80KV worth) flying off his CSET right through the plexiglas enclosure. Now regular arcs don't do that. So I think he was on to something with a forward biased diode. At least that is how I'm using it my systems from now on.

A very good question.

Spokane1

Stay tuned I have a coupule of new photos to up load this evening

[Spokane1]

Dear Loyal and Information Hungry E.V.Gray Researchers

GD Materials Installment #1    8-19-08

Here is a photo of the front side of the EMA6 as it was presented at the stockholders meeting 1/9/76. This photo seems to have been preprocessed as if it were cut from a larger photo and then pasted on a new background. Never the less there is some interesting things to observe here. It is my belief that this motor was the technical efforts of Richard Hackenburger as he attempted to improve upon the principles he saw operating in the EMA4-E2 Cole motor. The original resolution was 600 dpi.

1. I'm pretty sure the size of the motor cylinder is 12" ID by 16" long. There was an attempt to make the newer model smaller. I believe the size of the older EMA4-E2 was 16" ID x 24" long. I know that the white panels on the three power supplies are standard 19" rack panels. I think these power supplies were custom built for Gray by a company in 1000 Oaks, CA (at least that is where he got his diodes).

2. Notice there doesn't appear to be a starting motor on this model nor an air pump. There is a good chance that this model could start from 0 rpm, unlike the EMA4-E2 that needed to be brought up to 500 rpm first.

3. Notice the 6" muffin fans on each power supply. They may have been working with "Cold Electricity" but obviously these reported cooling effects didn't take place in the power supply. This suggests that perhaps the non-classical process took place in the motor and not in these particular power supplies- this is just.
a thought.

4. The second photo is my attempt of providing a close up using Photo Shop Ver. 5. The detail is not as good as I would like it to be. Notice the black dots around the end of the white nylon cylinder.  There are 9 clusters of 3 each. This same contact arrangement is to be found in the EMA4 and the EMA5 prototype motors owned by Al Francouer in Yack, BC (about 120 miles north of here). If you study the Pulse motor patent 3,890,548 you will also see this same pattern (I recommend disregarding the text). The center contact is about three times wider than the two smaller outer ones. It appears (according to my research so far) this one fires the "Major Pole" while the small one do something after the "Major Pole" has been fired. All three contacts don't operate at once. First the center contact is closed then on another swipe the two smaller contacts are made active. This is achieved with two internal slip rings. I'm still working on what this could possibly do inside the motor.

5. Notice no control panel, only a very large knife switch and a large rotary dial (assume for speed control) that selected different voltages from the battery pack.

6. No outboard generator to top off the batteries. This motor was far from being ready for production but it was the best Richard could do with the circumstance's and funding available.

7. This view still doesn't give a good perspective of the CSET's

Spokane1

[pomodoro]

Thanks Spokane1!

Fellow researches, I was looking at the patent and something about Ed's tube makes little sense. The grid only surrounds the long, high voltage anode and is not surrounding the spark.  All I have read about radiant energy is that it is generated at the arc and radiates out.  But Ed seemed to not care about the arc zone one bit - assuming the patent is realistic.

[Spokane1]

Dear pomodoro,

You are correct on that issue. Consider the source of your reading. The idea that RE is radiated out in all direction from the arc has its beginnings with Dr. Tesla in an article he wrote in 1892 in the "Electrical Experimenter". Researchers have expanded upon this idea - most notably being Tom Bearden and Jerry Vassilatos.

But let us consider the facts.

There are only two (2) models of E.V.Gray CSET tubes in existence that have been photographed. The first one shows up on the EMA6 and the remaining one in the 1986 promotion video.

The first ones seemed to have worked (marginally at a mere 2HP out). OK, assume they were having a bad day. These only working devices look a heck of a lot different than what the drawing shows in the patent. The outer copper (it looks copper) ring is about 2" thick and 4" in diameter. There appear to be 3 inner "grids" as well - all seem to be copper water pipe. Also there doesn't seem to be any holes in these "grids". The center electrode appears to be about 1" in diameter and is at least 4" long. This layout, of the only know working CSET, is a far cry from what the patent shows. - So go figure (I have for a long time)

Also, the enclosure is standard Plexiglas. I doubt if it could hold a partial vacuum or very much pressure. I think it was operating at one atmosphere (standard outside air pressure).


Folks, It is my learned opinion that the devices shown in the EMA6 series of photos are Trigger gaps used to start a higher current arc somewhere else (motor or power supply). E.V.Gray would not display the heart of his technology (actually Marvin Cole's) in see-thru boxes at a media event. They sure look neat, but I say these units are functional eye candy only - the real magic is else where.

That means if the CSET is a valid component then the real ones were hidden in the power supplies - and who knows what they looked like or how they were built. One report claims that E.V. Gray kept his real glass CSET's in a locked brief case and took them home with him every evening. He was also said to be armed. However, I haven't heard the same information from any of my interview contacts. It's a good story though.

Even if the CSET's are for real Gray didn't know how to build them. He spent a decade scratching for a living (1979-1989). If he could built just one functional demonstration device (that wasn't bogus) his financial problems would have been over with. It appears that he wasn't up to the task.

The CSET built in 1986 and shown in the Promotion Clips was never connected to do any work. 5KV was pulsed through it for show but that's all. The glass enclosure was from a Coleman outdoor lamp. The custom end blocks were machined in Bosie, ID

Check the Phinny patent 3,619,638 if you want to get an idea as to what I think the devices shown with the EMA6 are really for - but this is just my opinion.

Attached is a photo of the bogus CSET built by E.V. Gray  in 1986 in case you don't have one. The label is 1/2" wide for size comparision.

Spokane1

[Thaelin]

Hi Spokane:
   The more I look at these tubes, the more I see a triggered spark gap. Over and over this keeps
coming up in my thoughts. In the end, I saw recently posted that the "FCC" raided his shop and
took what was left due to radio interference. A spark gap would damn sure cause lots of it. Just have
to put it in a cage and shield it. The way these tubes are layed out would seem as the high current
switching device for the coils with recapture on the other side.
   Too bad a photo flash tube cant handle the umph

thaelin