Eds design

[forest]

TV set tube ? accelerated electrons ?

[Spokane1]

Dear forest,

To my classical knowledge free electrons can only be accelerated effectively in high vacuums (such as CRT's, vacuum power tubes, x-ray tubes, atom smashers, etc.). Free electrons in open air arcs is a far differnet kind of physics. There you have all the other mixture of hot ions to deal with. Once the free electrons pick up some velocity they run into another particle where there is a collision and yet another redistribution of the energy. The electrons do make it to the receiving electrode with a little more energy then when they started, but it is far less that what they could achieved if they were traveling in a high vacuum with out a collision every 30 nS.

Spokane1

[Shanti]

The only tested E.V.Gray motor that demonstrated the huge OU performance didn't have CSET's (The EMA2) and all of the "Black Box" circuits didn't have CSET's either.

Is this known? For couldn't a CSET have been in one of the black boxes?

The only real CSET's in existence that I know of couldn't support a vacuum.

Do you mean, the Promo Vid CSET and the CSETs of the EMA6-Presentation?
I personally would guess they are both fake, and not the real CSETs... (but that's just MHO)

"Besides this way it is possible to use pulsed mode and
switch-off the primary energy source before the
emission electrons will reach the anode, Fig.2. In this
case there is not the conductivity current between
anode and cathode and the primary source is not
discharging during its work.

Well OK, didn't read the PDF. But as far as I see it, the electrodes mustn't be isolated in this layout, and then there will surely be drawn some current from the source, to replace the radiated electrons.

If you have studied the fine details of the Tesla table top oscillators, especially the lecture to the New York Academy of Science in 1897 you will find a strange reference about how the distance and orientation of the storage capacitor had to be to the secondary of the output transformer. From my classical training this association serves no useful function at all, but if Dr. Tesla was referring to some non-disclosed non-classical process then we might have a better understanding as to what the FFF might really be for.

Well Tesla mentioned many times, why the distances in his devices were so crucial: To improve the developed power by a very great amount, he created standing waves on the electric lines. He also said, that even a conventional Tesla transformer would be exceptionally better if you exactly size it, so that a standing wave can develop. Most hobby-Tesla-Transformer builders are already happy, when they can get the primary and secondary perfectly in resonance. But to get them in resonance and at the same time build standing waves in the cables is extremely difficult to build. But Tesla surely mastered this art.
He also made some nice demonstartions with this. E.g. he created a standing wave in a copper bar. And now when you connected the lamp at one place, it light (amplitude point of standing wave), when you connected it at another place it remained dark (wave knot point).

[forest]

Is this known? For couldn't a CSET have been in one of the black boxes?
Do you mean, the Promo Vid CSET and the CSETs of the EMA6-Presentation?
I personally would guess they are both fake, and not the real CSETs... (but that's just MHO)

Well OK, didn't read the PDF. But as far as I see it, the electrodes mustn't be isolated in this layout, and then there will surely be drawn some current from the source, to replace the radiated electrons.

As far as I know this is not needed. This is a beauty of secondary emmision.But ,y knowledge of vacuum tubes is limited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_emission

Seems that we lost very valuable electrical parts when solid state come up. The last oportunity is ending know with all those LCD forced monitors and TV sets.I feel like somebody planed this... Who does know today details about secondary emmision ? What if we put such a source in positive feedback loop powered by sharp gradient unipolar impulses ?

[Shanti]

As far as I know this is not needed. This is a beauty of secondary emmision

Sure I know this principle, the Farnsworth Mulitpactor works like that. But you only smash out electrons out of the electrode. But somehow you again have to replace these electrons, otherwise the potential of the electrode will rise, and soon no more secondary emissions will happen, or the electrons will immediately be swallowed up again by the electrode. And I think this schema is a bit odd for this. But OK, maybe it could work, but only if all the switches were timed correctly, and this makes this design far more complicated than necessary, for a Farnsworth Multipactor does this much simpler without any switching need just with a simple LC-oscillation circuit...
So to me, this is the same principle, but in a much more unnecessary complicated version.
And as I said, even if you time it correctly, you will still need some current from the source in this arrangement, although it may be little.