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The correct theory of electricity

Started by forest, August 17, 2012, 12:14:56 PM

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truesearch

@gadget:


What volts/amps do you get with that circuit?


truesearch

gadgetmall

Quote from: truesearch on September 17, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
@gadget:


What volts/amps do you get with that circuit?


truesearch
@truesearch read the links i posted . capable of charging a 12 volt battery . He has build a BIG Board of these. Check it out."quote:This arrangement provides serious power, enough to cause injury to, or kill a careless human. With two modules, it will light an LED very brightly, driving it to 2.6 volts.  If the LED is removed, then the voltage climbs to about twenty volts and is easily sufficient to charge a 12V battery or battery bank although that takes time.  With twenty modules as 12V battery can be charged over night.  It is estimated that with two hundred modules, the power would be sufficient to power a household although that has not yet been done.  It should be borne in mind that each module is easy and cheap to make, so arranging for a stack of them where additional modules can be added at a later date for more power, is an ideal arrangement.

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forest

Quote from: thx1138 on September 17, 2012, 08:47:14 AM
Interesting post but still unclear to me.
I recently finished some work on what Dr. Tesla considered 'radiant energy' to be and the thought process that led him there. The short answer is from Tesla’s Latest Roentgen Ray Investigations, Electrical Review, New York 28 No.17, April 22. 1896): '…streams resembling the cathodic must be emitted by the sun and probably also by other sources of radiant energy, such as an arc light or Bunsen burner.'
His theory changed over time and he later saw that the 'radiant energy' was emitted by all stars in the universe rather than just the sun. We are truly awash in a sea of energy.
See attached files. The timeline file needs to be viewed with high screen resolution.
I would surely like to hear your opinions on how this fits into your theory.

Stunning work ! I'm very impressed. I agree with all conclusions, some of them I do not fully comprehend yet. For example I'm fully aware that sun is electrical phenomenon and energy from it is running Earth wheelwork. Clearly I don't see how a metal ball like Earth can sustain itself magnetic field able to cope with solar wind if not powered by external forces.
I know that Tesla worked with one wire energy transfer starting from 1890 or 1889 investigating the bulb powered by one terminal of HV coil but what it bother me must is that even if there was only one terminal in every case existed also the second terminal. Even if he put a standing wave on long conductor with a bulb at the and and a capacitive insulated plate as a reservoir , the second terminal was there balanced with another plate or ground.
Even so called Tesla coil still has the second terminal grounded or connected to primary (and then grounded or floating).

As you see it's not a finished theory I have - it's a partial ideas only mstly due to personal limitation and the school which taught me wrong ideas and I cannot ride them out . I'm fighting with ground system and single wire transmission and closed loop systems and how it all cooperate together especially when we add Earth electrical system.

However if every electrical device really has to have two terminals and closed loop even if capacitively or inductively arranged (even if it looks like closed path is missing) then the main question arise : where is the second terminal of our solar system wheelwork ? Is this the center of galaxy or something else ?

Your timeline is missing one small but important fact. You should know why it is so important.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_27.htm

I see somebody was interested to find more about this Clemente Figueras who sparkled Tesla interest in 1902. If we could get any pictures of his machine it would be a tremendous help.

http://es.globedia.com/enigma-clemente-figuera-maquina-energia-infinita
http://orbo.es/?p=26

thx1138

@forest:
QuoteI'm fighting with ground system and single wire transmission and closed loop
systems...
I'll give you my interpretation which may or may not be correct. Don't think of the transmission line as part of the system of connections. To simplfy it think of transmitting a signal, not power. The transmitter is one device. It has a power source and a ground. It transmitts by inducing a current in one wire. That wire if just a wire. It has no source of its own nor a ground connection. The receiver receives the power from that one wire via induction from the one wire into the receiver. The receiver also has it's own power source and ground system to tune it to the frequency of the transmitter's induced signal. There is no return from the receiver to the transmitter. It is similar to a regulor radio of today in that the radio station transmits and the receiver receives. They both have a power source and ground but there is no return connection between them. But Dr. Tesla's system is different in that it doesn't transmit transverse waves but uses the conductance of the atmosphere or the crust of the earth to transmit that longitudinal wave. While the transverse wave is similar to tying one end of a string to a fixed object and jerking the free end up and down creating a wave in the string that is damped by the interaction with air, the longitudinal wave is more like a hose filled with water that has a piston in each end. Push the piston on one end and the piston on the other end moves. It is a compression wave or a change in pressure density inside the hose. Here's a couple of links that clarified it for me:
http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html - specifically see figure 2
http://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/waves/wavemotion.html - waves
http://www.scribd.com/doc/87370681/Fritz-Lowenstein-Capacities-1916 - spherical capacitors
QuoteYour timeline is missing one small but important fact. You should know why it is
so important.
I read Dr. Tesla's book but had never seen that article. Many thanks...I think. While reviewing that article and updating my document I had what might be a brainstorm, or maybe, a brain fart. I haven't decided yet.
I have been looking at Dr. Tesla's work on a global scale and considering the planet and its atmosphere as a capacitor from which we can extract power but consider the following.
Definition of a semiconductor: : “A semiconductor is a substance, usually a solid chemical element or compound, that can conduct electricity under some conditions but not others, making it a good medium for the control of electrical current. Its conductance varies depending on the current or voltage applied to a control electrode, or on the intensity of irradiation by infrared, visible light, ultraviolet, or X rays.” http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/definition/semiconductor
The “usually a solid chemical element or compound” means “usually today”, as in solid state semiconductors. Dr. Tesla, however, had shown with his various high voltage, high frequency experiments that air and the atmosphere itself can be a semiconductor in that it can “conduct electricity under some conditions but not others”. In fact when you see lightning or a spark in a spark gap you are seeing air acting as a voltage controlled semiconductor. So the spark gap was the “semiconductor” of Dr. Tesla’s day at least up to the point where the Crookes and Lennard vacuum tubes came into play.
In light of the above observation about semiconductors, can we consider the earth as the drain region, the upper strata of the atmosphere as the source region, the high frequency, high voltage spark gap device as the gate region and the atmosphere between them as the depletion region of a transistor? When the HF/HV spark gap device (gate) is activated it transforms the atmosphere (depletion region) from the non-conducting state to a conducting state and opens the conducting channel between the cosmic rays and whatever we use to receive the energy. If the voltage supply is constant we get an arc (a steady flow) instead of a spark and when the arc is rapidly quenched we get a pulsing, unidirectional conducting channel.
Actually, many thanks, indeed, to you.
It's the brain storm/fart that has me aggravated because now I have to rethink the whole scenario of Dr. Tesla's work in terms of a planet sized FET transistor where the cosmic rays are the source, a capacitance (the earth or otherwise) is the drain, and Dr. Tesla's device is the gate actuating mechanism whereby we open a conducting channel between the cosmic rays and whatever our ground or 'virtual ground' is.

TinselKoala

Isopropyl alcohol vapor capacitor, an extreme high-voltage semiconductor.

Like a sealed Leyden jar but full of the alcohol vapor instead of water. Try to get all the air out and just have the saturated vapor in there. There is an explosion hazard so don't use glass and do wear safety glasses.

Sorry I can't tell you more.

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