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Laugh at me or join me. My Magnetic motor that I spent 10 grand on

Started by catdog71, August 23, 2012, 12:05:46 AM

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Spirality

If Lenz's Law works for copper pipe, then you should try short copper pipe lengths (closed electrical loop) to house your fixed magnets in ;)

I never had much faith in mechanical perpetual machines. The more complex they are, the more energy is lost in friction, noise, grinding, etc. I hope someone gets one working though.

avalon

I would be really surprised if this actually worked.
IMHO, the design is not that far away from other known (and failed) setups.

Yes, you can add a magnetic shield and reduce the pulling force of the sticky spot by 60% but at he same time the shield will change the pushing force (after the sticky spot) as well. The end result is that the system will simply find another resting point away from the original one but still won't work.

I based this on my experiments magnetic V-track(s) like the one on the attached picture. To overcome the sticky spot I have tried every known technique [angled magnets, mag shields, mu-metals, etc]. Sadly, no positive results to report.

I am not trying to discourage. My comments are only to help to avoid known deadends.

TinselKoala

Who cares if it works.... it's _beautiful_ !

Very nice indeed. Thumbs up.
:)


avalon

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 24, 2012, 04:49:56 PM
Who cares if it works.... it's _beautiful_ !
Very nice indeed. Thumbs up.
:)

Thank you. However, it didn't work as I had hopped.

The gears are to connect to other 4 cylinders like this one except that they don't have a V-track but have a long magnet instead made by stacking 6 small magnets.

With the V-tack cylinder in the centre and 4 long magnet cylinders around it I'd hoped to find a timing spot for the gears where a sticky spot for one of the long magnet cylinders would be overcome by the combined power of the remaining 3. Furthermore, because they all rotate synchronously all sticky spots for every long magnet would no longer be a problem.

Since I made this I've found several timing positions for the gears where I was very close to have a self-rotating unit. However, I still don't have one.
Every time the system finds another resting place, different from the previous one.

Makes a nice toy to play with, though.

Spirality

I tried out some magnets in copper pipe, as I suggested before, but they still interact through the copper. Perhaps you could fix on some steel plating in strategic positions near your magnets? Just to absorb the sticky spot. Maybe try something cheap at first, like small steel brackets or hinges, fixed on with a small strip of aluminium or plastic.

As the thickness of the steel plate increases, so does the "absorption" of the magnetism, and the magnetic effect is "steered" towards it.
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=shielding-materials

QuoteWhat material will work?
The short answer is: Any ferromagnetic metal. That is, anything containing iron, nickel or cobalt. Most steels are ferromagnetic metals, and work well for a redirecting shield....
....there are some specialized materials specifically made for magnetic shielding. The foremost of these is MuMetal, an industry reference material defined in Milspec 14411C [linked on page].