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Is joule thief circuit gets overunity?

Started by Neo-X, September 05, 2012, 12:17:13 PM

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ltseung888

Received 20 Oscilloscope test-ready boards from Shenzhen this morning.  Selected one as package 38 for overunity.com.

A pleasant surprise - the board already showed Average Output Power > Average Input Power without the capacitor.

This is the first of the triple tests.  The top curve on the waveform files represents Voltage.  The bottom curve represents Current.  Thus the Instantaneous Voltage and Current are displayed.  Their product gives the Instantaneous Power.  With the Atten Oscilloscope, I can save the CSV file and do the analysis (to be described on next post)

The Output Waveform and Vpp and Vrms values all exceeded the corresponding Input values.  That is a good indication of possible OU.  The CSV was saved and analyzed.  In this first test, the COP was -1.71.  The negative sign came from Input implying it is a feedback circuit.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Some information is already available at the ltseung888 bench at overunityresearch.com.  For example:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1678.msg28886#msg28886

However, some people have expressed difficulty to accessing the information there.  The important ones will be reproduced in this thread.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Reproduced from OUR forum
I  am now preparing the "Test boards" for the various forums.

There will be a small, standalone demo  board (battery and battery holder not included) and an oscilloscope-test -ready board.

The demo board is meant to stimulate interest.  Connect the battery for 10 seconds and the LED will be ON for over 20 minutes.  The first 2 minutes will shine with full brightness.  Thus connect for 10 seconds and then disconnect for 2 minutes and repeat.  The LED will shine with constant brightness.  Will such a set up save electricity?

If you want the capacitor to fully discharge first, just connect the red and white wires together for 30 seconds.  The LED will be OFF within 2 seconds and total discharge as displayed on the oscilloscope will occur well before the 30 seconds.  To ensure a fully charged condition to impress your audience, connect the battery for 1 minute for continued full brightness at the beginning.

I use such demo boards at casual meetings to stimulate interest.  It is a good conversation opener.  It is also an inexpensive gift that is well appreciated.

There will be assigned numbers to ensure quality results.
Number 33 - overunityresearch.com
Number 38 - overunity.com
Number 39 - energetic Forum

These demo boards are shown below and will be triple-tested before shipment.  They will be part of the package.

More on the oscilloscope-test-ready board later.

Pouring out the Divine Wine.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Reproduced from reply 5 at OUR

The lowest DC Power to light up the demo boards was 500mV approximately.  This result was obtained by using DC Power Supply.

Thus the testers with these demo boards may use AA batteries from fully charged to 1.0V (normally considered as dead).  This is in accordance with the common knowledge of a standard Joule Thief.

However, a DC Power Supply is strongly recommended as it can give a constant voltage for a very long time.  The voltage can also be stepped up and down for tuning purposes (or to catch the sweet spot as some like to put it.)

The guarantee on the Demo Board is:
(1) The LED can be lighted via a fully charged AA battery.
(2) The LED will remain ON with same apparent brightness for at least 2 minutes.  A 20 second recharge will bring it back to full brightness.
(3) The full lighting time including the blinking will be at least 20 minutes.

I can provide such guarantee on the boards because:
(1) The LED can be lighted even with a 1.0V AA battery.
(2) The same apparent brightness on the boards to be shipped out last over 3 minutes.  A 10 second recharge will bring them back to full brightness.
(3) The full lighting time for the 3 boards lasted more than 3 hours in the tests.

If the shipped boards failed to meet the guarantee for any reason (shipping damage?), I can always ship out a replacement.  Thus the 3 Forums will always have a Demo board with the above description for demonstration.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

From the thread on what is considered OU in OUR
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1675.msg28865#msg28865

@PhysicsProf,

I like your definition.  I shall be sending a triple-tested FLEET board to poynt99 in this Forum and to many others (a total of 100 is planned).  Hopefully, you have aleady received one in the mail.  You should be able to pick it up at your old address.

The triple tested FLEET boards will show that the Average Output Power is greater than the Average Input Power as measured on a dual Atten Oscilloscope (2 channe) system.  Two different models of Atten Oscilloscopes were used.  The purpose of sending the FLEET boards out is to have different organizations use different makes of oscilloscopes to confirm the experimental results.  They are encouraged to replicate and improve.

The Lead-out Energy suggested in this case is the electron motion energy.  As already accepted, electrons orbit around the nucleus.  Such electrons have kinetic energy.  In addition, a circular motion electron will show magnetic properties (a dipole).  There are trillions of electrons associated with any object.  In this case, we focus on the electrical circuit and in particular, the toroid with pulsing electrical and magnetic fields.  At the right matching of the oscillating LCR and the pulsing transistor circuits, the electrons will be aligned and some of their motion energy can be extracted (lead-out or brought-in).

It is suggested (and to be proven shortly with the FLEET boards) that the energy used to align these electrons can be less than the energy that can be extracted.  This is a logical explanation of getting more Average Output Energy than Average Input Energy.  Should such a FLEET board be considered as OU now?

Once the mainstream scientific community accepts the above, the floodgate will be open.  Many different devices using the electron motion energy will emerge as legitimate.  Some are already posted on the Internet.

When you have a chance, please test the oscilloscope-test-ready board already sent to you thoroughly.   Hopefully, many of the other 99 organizations will do the same.  Then Leading-out electron motion energy will be accepted (from OU to standard scientific understanding).

May the Almighty Guide us to benefit the World.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.