Is joule thief circuit gets overunity?

[NickZ]

 Toto:
  An increase of 0.2 volts, may not indicate what the actual battery current levels that may have been lost, in the process of raising this voltage.
   
  The LS cross-over circuit that I built will drain the battery in time, then will recharge it to its starting voltage, then, drain the battery to 1/10 the starting voltage, and recharge it back. After two weeks running time like this, the regular old 1.5v D cell alcaline battery gave out. The problem was that as the circuit reaches its lower point of battery charge, the led is not very bright. Still an unusual circuit, but not real useable to lighting, due to those oscillations of voltage and current levels.
  Possibly more experiments are needed, as Lasersaber was able to light a bulb, without his solar array connected in his shed, or batteries, if I'm not mistaken.
In a later update from him, he is showing that the capacitor bounce back effect is what is responsible for the recharging of the cap. So long as the led bulbs are not being drawn too heavily from.

  I'm now using the LS 3.0 circuit, along with the "Slayer Transistor Booster" circuit together, with its additional transistor, diode and resistor added. So now there are two  2 TIP 3055, sharing the load, so see if I can lower the draw on the input, as you've shown.
So, far the transistors are running a bit cooler, with a possible slight increase in lumins.
I can't read the current draws, as my amp meter is not working properly.
  I know that this may not have much to do with the FLEET devices, but I thought to also add it here, as capacitors can bounce back and recharge themselves if given the chance, along with batteries.

  Nick_Z

[ltseung888]

Five more triple-checked boards ready to ship.  They all showed Average Output Power > Average Input Power.

This batch is slightly different.  There is no demo board but has a capacitor and a connecting wire as shown instead.  The battery is not included.  To demonstrate the long lighting effect: hand connect the positive of the battery to a red clip and the negative to a  black clip.  The first time is to charge for 2 minutes.  Then disconnect the battery for 2 minutes and reconnect for 10 seconds and repeat.  The LED will show full brightness throughout.

One can obviously use a timer to do the job.  Ask the question: will such a set-up save electricity.

Then take the board for a full oscilloscope analysis.  The Average Output Power will be greater than the Average Input Power.  Is there Lead-out energy from the surrounding?

The Divine Wine is flowing.....

[ltseung888]

One feedback from Internet:

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*** One more independent tester, replicator and improver?
*** One comment:  Why provide the capacitor if it is not essential to OU confirmation?

[NickZ]

  Because, when the capacitor dies out, it will prove without a shadow of a doubt that there is no overunity in your version of the JT. The AA battery will also do the same, but will take much longer, too long for impatient people to deal with, it seams.
As mentioned previously by others, the cap will discharge in much less time, regardless of the scope readings, so it's best to include it in your test shipments so there won't be any more excuses.
  We await the replies from the testers... hopefully it won't take too long.
The reason for my negativity is due to you never showing a self-runner that has been replicated and can further be replicated, even after all these years.
I do hope that you do have some luck with this, this time around.

[ltseung888]

Letter to the Testers:

Dear tester,

I am enclosing the oscilloscope test-ready board for you to test, replicate and improve.  This particular board has been triple checked on my Atten Oscilloscopes and found that the Average Output Power was greater than the Average Input Power.

Please read the posts related to such boards at:

http://www.overunity.com/12686/is-joule-thief-circuit-gets-overunity/225/

Three similar boards have been sent to the three Forums:

Board 33 to overunityresearch.com

Board 38 to overunity.com

Board 39 to Energetic forum.

You have been chosen as a tester because you expressed interest in Lead-out Energy Research and have access to Digital Oscilloscopes.  If you have a 4 channel oscilloscope, you will be able to measure the Input Voltage, Input Current, Output Voltage and Output Current directly.  If your oscilloscope has the capability to display the Average Input and Average Output Power directly, you can check whether the Average Output Power is greater than the Input Power immediately.

If you have a two channel oscilloscope such as the Atten, you can first measure the Input Waveforms and save the CSV files and do the EXCEL analysis to get the Average Input Power.  Then repeat to measure the Output.  The markings on the board and the attached circuit diagram will help you to make the right connections.  The many BMP and XLS files on the above thread provide you with a good idea of what to look for.  The goal is to check whether your oscilloscope  detects Average Output Power greater than Average  Input Power.  Other modifications and tests can come later.

Please email your results to me or post them on the above forums directly.  You are welcome to replicate and improve such boards to benefit the World.

Lawrence Tseung