Is joule thief circuit gets overunity?

[ltseung888]

Yes, your experiments with the timer charging a capacitor seem worth investigating further. Does the timer circuit you are using have a relay output with isolated contacts?
*** The twin timer was bought from a local electronics component store.  No technical details or circuit diagrams were included.

You probably can use electro-smog as a source of energy, but the problem is that most of this EM radiation around us is fairly low power, and you can probably only use it to at best light a LED or make a very low power battery charger. Maybe if a person set up a big array of high gain antennas they might be able to pull in a bit more power.
If someone is able to pull in more power than just a little bit this way, then they may be drawing power inductively off the main power grid lines, which is probably illegal. :)

*** We are still at the infancy of such technology.  There are still many unknowns.  Some of the statements from experts may be false because they drew conclusions from their existing knowledge.  I still believe that no physics laws are violated if we use X amount of energy to "magnetize" a magnet and we can get Y units of work done.  Y can be greater than X because the material itself already has magnetic properties.

I sow seeds.  TK may have many negative comments but he also did some remarkable experiments that added to our understanding.  The fact that a JT can pick up electrosmog energy is definitely worth further research.  What is the best circuit and how much energy can be picked up?  Will the addition of capacitors in the circuit make a difference?

*** I believe much electrical energy is "wasted" especially in a factory type environment when one can see sparks, noise etc.  If such "wasted" energy can be picked up and used, we are not "stealing" from the electric companies....  In the traditional lighting systems, much energy is wasted as heat or radiated out without giving visible light.  If we can use such energy???


I firmly believe that if a system already has "random" energy, the use of X units to orientate such "random" energy may bring out Y units of useful energy.  Y can be greater than X.  The system does not need to be closed or return back to the initial state.  No Laws of thermodynamics are violated.....

[ltseung888]

The two boards 121 and 122 with Mr. Lau is still ON dimly.  Board 121 is the standard JT with a normal AA battery.  Board 122 has the capacitor but no timer.

I shall go to his place to check it out tomorrow.

Mr. Zhou has built the 2n2055 and his preliminary result is that the Input Power can be much higher than the "noise level" of 10mV.  I shall let him play with it for a few more days before picking it up.

It looks like the Boards are indeed "bringing-in" or "leading-out" some energy from the environment.  I do not know the exact mechanism yet.  It may be electrosmog or something else.  I shall encourage others to water, fertilize and harvast the seeds.....   It is a free World.  The testers can do whatever they feel like.

[ltseung888]

Try to analyze the strange Board 113.

Board 113 was the strange board withwaveform totally different from other Boards.  Previously, I just treat such Boards as reject.  Now on TK's advice, I keep them and try to analyze them.

Just show the strange waveforms first.  The first comparison of Board and connections appeared correct.

*** It looks like the best thing for me to do is to keep the Board.  Wait until I find the right person to debug.  I do not have the energy, skill and equipment to do a proper job.

[poynt99]

Lawrence,

Board #113 seems to be running between 1MHz and 2 MHz. That is a big clue as to what is wrong/different. Most of your boards run in the low kHz correct?

Check the coil resistance and connections. You might have one half of the coil connected backwards (i.e. wrong polarity).

[ltseung888]

Lawrence,

Board #113 seems to be running between 1MHz and 2 MHz. That is a big clue as to what is wrong/different. Most of your boards run in the low kHz correct?

Check the coil resistance and connections. You might have one half of the coil connected backwards (i.e. wrong polarity).

@poynt99,

Thank you for the tip.  Rather than taking Board 113 apart, I shall deliberately produce a board with the wrong toroidal winding.  But the crossing of the current on the Output side is very interesting.  LED was ON brightly with almost no Output (or negative Output) power.  Could this "wrong" connection be the "magic" we are looking for?