Is joule thief circuit gets overunity?

[ltseung888]

This is the second attempt to do the 2 stage JT.  To my surprise, the Input Vpp was higher than the Output Vpp.  The COP was -1.24.  It appears that the 2 stage JT circuit has a much more complex feedback mechanism than simple addition.

MORE RESEARCH NEEDED.

[poynt99]

Here are the last two scopeshots representing "output" that Lawrence posted up above, in posts 292 and 314. Notice anything interesting?

In 314 it appears the voltage has increased by a factor of 10, and the current by a factor of 2. The frequency has also dropped quite a bit.

[ltseung888]

 Opening the floodgate

Three oscilloscope test-ready boards were given to a Venture Capitalist Group who already funded "Free Energy Research".

In their words: "Your board is the simplest to demonstrate and test.  It will take our experts a few minutes to hook up and test.  If your board is not overunity, that will be the end of the game.  If it shows overunity, the game begins."

The thing that impressed them most is the Average Output Power vs Average Input Power graph.  In particular, they were amazed at the negative input power.  The two stage JT with the very sharp negative Input power peaks was particularly striking.  With the three boards, they will be able to reproduce that curve on their own oscilloscopes.
*** Thank you to all those who suggested the loopback or two stage JT experiment.  I did not expect that it would show the negative Input Power so strikingly. ***

They seemed to appreciate the significance of negative input power without my detailed explanations.  Probably, they have already heard something similar from their existing ventures.  Average Negative Input Power implies more power is being feedback to the source than supplied by the source. How is that possible?  There must be additional energy coming in.  It is a clear confirmation of Lead-out energy.

The Floodgate is now open.  There is no more mystery to the lasersaber devices, the bedini generator, the steven mark TPU etc.  It is a matter of who will supply the first commercial product.  Any organization or individual with oscilloscopes can enter this race.  The many testers will confirm the results within the next few weeks.

Divine wine will pour out to benefit the World.

[ltseung888]

 Conversation with Mr. Zhou, the professional who supplied the oscilloscope test-ready boards.

Tseung; "Do you perform a full oscilloscope analysis on every board before you send it to me?"

Zhou: "No.   That will take too long.  If you want a full analysis report on every board, you have to pay extra.  It will more than triple your cost."

Tseung: "What sort of tests do you perform?  You have a 90% success rate on the elusive overunity board without the capacitor.  I never have that success rate even though my JTs all light up the LEDs."

Zhou: "I used the oscilloscope.  But I only observe the Waveforms.  The most important waveform is the Input Current (bottom curve of Input).  If it fluctuates around the zero axis with significant negative values, I know that the board will pass."

I checked my other JT boards such as that in:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1516.msg26471#msg26471
Focus on Nov12a.xls.  That JT did not show overunity without the capacitor.  Even with the capacitor and constant DC power supply, it did not show overunity .  It showed overunity when the DC power supply was removed.  Not all JT will show overunity or in the same way...

Mr. Zhou is clever.  He focused on the most important element of his boards – Negative Input Power.

[poynt99]

Lawrence,

How does Zhou "tune" the boards to pass?