Is joule thief circuit gets overunity?

[ltseung888]

Mr. Zhou is getting ready to sell Lead-out Energy products to the Market.

See Photo and pdf file. 

Instead of my giving gifts to different organizations, any one can order the guaranteed OU products from him.

[ltseung888]

Mr. Zhou used more than one make of oscilloscope to test Board 58.  Both UNI-T and Atten oscilloscopes showed COP > 1.

Product should be ready within weeks.

[TinselKoala]

What, exactly, is your definition of "OU" here, Lawrence?

It certainly cannot mean "overunity" in the way that we normally understand it, because your boards aren't making any excess energy and are in fact less efficient in lighting their lights with the battery or cap stored energy than some other circuits we've seen in the JT threads.

Your boards are demonstrating several things: poor layout and construction, measurement errors, over-reliance on digital "numbers in boxes", bad experimental design and procedure, and the gullibility of uneducated masses, along with more than a little greed and cynicism. They are NOT demonstrating any kind of overunity performance. Your _only_ evidence that supports your claim is to be found in your scope measurements.... the actual performance of your circuit belies your claims, since your batteries/capacitors DO run down and do so in normal time intervals for the light output seen. This failure is technically called a lack of "concurrent validity"... that is, other measures and tests do not agree with the interpretation of the spreadsheeted scope data.

Please show a photo or video of your 2n2222a circuit lighting "thousands of LEDs" for a significant time on a AA battery or similar power source.

[ltseung888]

The oscilloscope analysis results for board 58 done by Mr. Zhou at his Office.

The COP was -31.94.  However, the Average Input Power = -0.00075watts 
The Average Output Power =0.02388watts

The good thing about the experiment was that both the UNI-T and Atten Oscilloscopes gave same results.  The possibility of equipment error was zero.

@TK
Let the other testers with their oscilloscopes display the results of the "guaranteed OU boards" first.  When we have absolutely confirmed results from multiple sources, we can then show the next prototypes.  There is no need to jump now.  Many testers, replicators, improvers will show the very impressive results you hope for.  Just be patient.  I am a poor experimenter - bad eye sight, bad hearing, shaky hands and pressing wrong buttons etc.  The testers are very different.  Let them do their job.....

Many top guns such as lasersaber have already demonstrated "OU" devices.  I just use the "guaranteed OU board" and the Lead-out energy theory to back them up (or sit on their shoulders).

[ltseung888]

What, exactly, is your definition of "OU" here, Lawrence?

My definition of "OU" is that - a scientific instrument such as the oscilloscope can detect that the Average Output Power is greater than the Average Input Power.

The Average Input Power can be from a battery or a DC Power supply over many seconds, minutes, hours or days.

The Average Output Power is pulsed (not DC or AC) and must be measured by the averaging of the product of the Instantaneous Voltage and Instantaneous Current over many sample points.  The only tool that can show the waveforms and capture the Instantaneous values for analysis is the Oscilloscope (my limited knowledge).

Another important indication of "OU" is the occurance of Negative Power.  For example, Negative Input Power indicates that more Power flows back to the battery than supplied by the battery.  Energy must be flowing from some external source other than the battery.  That is the essence of Lead-out Energy.