Probality of God

[ramset]

W
Nice.....
I see its nap time for "W", very hard work this "overseeing the minions" ....always having to keep a watchful eye lest we wonder off and start worshipping some Hubcap Or broken DVD player.......... or make a few Spelling mistakes !!

Its all about the "Spoons And Pasta " these days.[there's a story behind that....? I just know it]

Anyhoo "W", when you wake up from nap time ,and finish beating the Cat and pulling the legs off that spider...please, please put me back on your ignore list.

Thx
Chetty

PS
Lumen...Very cool indeed ,I think its even a bit biblical...........

[lumen]

This is something, today on the news I see that 23 countries are having violent protests at American embassy's from Muslim protesters.
I wonder why such religious people tend to act so violently. Whats up with that?

[vineet_kiran]

Fact! Mass can be created from energy, and can be created by man, so using your own logic, man is a God!

When mass is created from energy it  becomes 'conversion' and not 'creation'.   Conservation law is applied to both mass and energy.



Vineet.K.

[eatenbyagrue]

Logic and reason, laws of physics thmeselves point towards existance of God.


Logic is like this :


1)  Mass cannot be created  -  Then this  universe cannot be real

2)  This universe is real   -  Then mass can be  created 



Either   No.(1)  has to be true or No(2) has to be true.  Both  cannot be true or false at the same time.   



If  science says that mass cannot be created then it has to accept that the existing universe is not real and it is just an illusion created by GOD

If science says that this universal is real ( made of protons, neutrons, elecrons, nutrinos, quarks  and other bullshit things)  then it has to accept that mass can be created.


But the science as we know neither accepts that the universe is illusion nor it accepts that mass can be created which are contradictory from the logical view point.


Vineet.K.

Well, at least you did not bring up the Bible as evidence.


But first off, you should read/listen to Krauss's talk about the universe from nothing.


[size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo[/size]


Second, even if you do not accept this theory, this does not lead to your conclusion.  You set up a false dichotomy.  Just because we do not yet  understand how the universe was created does not mean that god did it.

[eatenbyagrue]

to defend and uphold logic and reason... do you have a problem with that?

because religious communities are consistent offenders and consistently affect people in rationally and morally indefensible ways...

furthermore, our excusing of the unreason that we call religion/gawd has opened the floodgates for either types for other opportunistic attempts to exploit people’s trustworthiness and “openmindedness” â€" e.g., the cult of scientology, homeopathy, psychics, overunity and so on.

I suppose you're right.  It is good to defend logic and reason, and I am with you on the god stuff.  But I have to say, from the way you are writing, I get the unfortunate impression of someone literally foaming at the mouth.  I do not see how get enjoyable debates this way.  It has to immediately devolve into an ad-hominem attack fest.