Probality of God

[eatenbyagrue]

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Normally amongst the clinically Sane ...when there is a debate "Stats" hold weight.
however When someone holds a Hopeless ByAss .
This is not the case.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/Americans-Continue-Believe-God.aspx

Thx
Chet
PS
Its just mostly Ignorant americans that seem to believe [not lesberals it seems]
There's still 2 % that belong To the EBA "W" Club.

You can't poll for truth.  Truth exists  independent of consensus.

[ramset]

 EB
Since when Do Statistics have anything to do with truth, its a survey of the population.
Its just Raw data.....

Gallop does a fair job !

if you don't agree with it ,do you own Poll.

However ,to call People Names and Bolster your argument with insults usually indicates a weakness in your own argument.

The fact is statistically speaking the extreme majority don't rule out
a creator.
The extreme minority have another opinion and use Vulgarity and insults to purvey their point of view on this forum .
Thx
Chet

[eatenbyagrue]

EB
Since when Do Statistics have anything to do with truth, its a survey of the population.
Its just Raw data.....

Well that's true.  But back to the topic, which is the probability of god's existence, a poll will not help with that.


Anyway, if people want to believe in god, I do not care so much, as long as they do not legislate their beliefs upon others.


The believers seem to have a singular position as far as evidence.  Their evidence is the existence of this universe and the life in it.  But this is not good evidence for the "creation" theory.   It is merely a conjecture.  There are an infinite number of other conjectures about this and there are also some theories that are consistent with the laws of science.


To make matters worse, somehow people jump from "well, the universe must have had a creator" to the Bible is true and there is a god who cares about us and intervenes in our daily lives.  There is no evidence for any of this whatsoever, even if you happen to believe that the universe had a creator.

[thx1138]

If you take the idea that God is everything and everything is God literally, then it follows that the word God is a symbol for the totality of existence taken as a whole. That would include everything we know and feel emotionally and see and touch and feel physically, whether it is extant or not. It also includes that which we cannot see or touch of feel in the physical sense and everything we have yet to discover and have no knowledge of. If you take that as the definition of God then the extant evidence is all around us whether or not we can sense it. Looking at the Milky Way on a clear night or at cells under a microscope or the computer monitor in front of you is the extant proof of God.
That God is benevolent is evidenced by the fact that we exist at all in a universe so violent that mere exposure to it without the protection of the atmosphere which is maintained by the magnetic field of the planet to dilute the cosmic rays' energy and that of the solar wind will cause you to cease to exist as a human being. God is benevolent to life on this planet because the totality of existence has come together in a way that caused life to arise and, to this point, be sustained. The fact that life is sustained is the proof that God has a hand in your daily life.
Note, however, that all of this is subject to change. One single gama ray burst from the cosmos could wipe all of this out in a wink. So let us say that God has been benevolent up to this point.
In my opinion there is no reason that the totality of existence had to have a beginning or that it will have an end. If it had no beginning, it had no creator. It just is, has always been, and will always be - with or without the existance of man to philosophize about it.
To get back to alternative energy and considering the days of Dr. Tesla, one might say that God is aether and aether is God. All that exists is one infinite piece. Nothing can be taken from it. It cannot be destroyed.  Nothing can be added to it. It cannot be created. We can only change what is already there.

[thx1138]

Seemed relevant.