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Probality of God

Started by Newton II, September 14, 2012, 01:33:36 AM

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     Did you know that marine mammals all have skeletons that are similar to their earthbound conterparts.  The dolphin is the most intelligent marine mammal and has the same bones in its front fins as we have in our hands.  What advantage does a seabound creature have in going to the surface to get oxygen all the time?  The sperm whale has the same digestive system as a cow.   I think Darwinians won't ever find the missing link because there is a much greater chance of man devolving into a monkey than a monkey evolving into a man.  I believe that in our dna library we have the ability to devolve into a number of different species depending on enviromental feedback.  Embryonic development goes through all the species from an amobea to the monkeys with the oversized brain enclosure we take the form of today.  If your body is producing a whole bunch of serotonin then the cell going under meotic or mitotic division will not go mutant since the enviromental feedback is communicating success.  If you lack this sense of well being then you become diseased and mutations or activation of different parts of your dna get activated until such time as your sense of well being is restablished.  Death is a disease it is not encoded in our dna.  What advantage does a being have encoding death into it's dna?  Is there an overpopulation gene that gets activated for perpectuation of the species over perpectuation of the individual?  If that's the case you won't see my ass at any football games or mass gatherings of smartmonkeys.
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I would have to say
The design feature of Death[or a limited lifespan] must be most perplexing to an "Evolutionist".
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Quote from: ramset on October 02, 2012, 12:10:49 PM
I would have to say
The design feature of Death[or a limited lifespan] must be most perplexing to an "Evolutionist".
Thx
Chet


Why?  I can see why disease that kills the young would be selected against, as it does not give the victim a chance to procreate.  Cell deterioration from aging does not impact ability to procreate, and therefore is not disadvantageous from an evolutionary standpoint.

Newton II

Quote from: CuriousChris on October 02, 2012, 09:01:16 AM

I meditated and found the concept of god wanting, Can you do that?



I  don’t  believe it.    If you  meditate  you may see your  pet dog  but not  God.   Seeing God is not so easy.    It takes several  births of meditation with a highly evolved spirit  like that of Buddha. 

I can understand that you are expressing  doubt  whether  Buddha  has really realized God.    It is not only  Buddha  who has realized God  but hundreds of such saints and prophets have done it and spoken about  God.    Expressing doubts  altogether on all those saints  shows only  your arrogance without properly analyzing the subject.

Quote from: CuriousChris on October 02, 2012, 09:01:16 AM


Look at this while you are at it. the opposite. an animal thought to possibly be immortal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula

You speak like most religious zealots. Unable to move out of the 18th century. hurry along now we are way ahead of you.



It is only  about biological  immortality but not about physical immortality.     Even if a fish becomes  biologically immortal,  one day or the other  it has to die physically, eaten by other animals,  diseases or any other natural hazards which  is again decided by  god.

You wait for some time.    When somebody proves  that God exists,  you may have to go back to 1st   or 0th century  (period of  Jesus Christ)


Quote from: CuriousChris on October 02, 2012, 09:01:16 AM

6/ Your lack of medical knowledge is astounding. Most medicines are generalised otherwise they would adversely effect anyone the medicine is not designed for. Have you never been told do not take medicine prescribed for someone else. We are all different which is exactly why they say that. Of course we are all the same as well. Now I bet that confuses you doesn't it.


Any  diabetic  patient takes  insulin injection,   any normal  head ache patient takes aspirin.   You are not supposed  to take  medicines prescribed for others   because  it depends on  the stages of the disease .   For initial stages of the disease  you have to take  some  medicine  and  at advanced stages  you  may have to take some other medicine depending on your condition. 


Quote from: CuriousChris on October 02, 2012, 09:01:16 AM


So you are living proof of what I say then. for you religion is not about God its about you. therefore you'll make god fit whatever it is you want him to fit. and to make yourself happy you'll call it 'evolution of the spirit'

Your points are trivial and revolve around nitpicking, but whatever makes you happy.



Don’t connect god with religion.    Religions just  show different  ways to  reach God.    I  meant  I can find my  own way  to  reach God  instead of following  ways shown by others.

I can  very well understand  that you are writing  just for the sake of argument without properly  analyzing things.    Half baked knowledge is always dangerous  because it  may take you out of track  and  at  some part of life you will repent for it.

Before I  come to conclusion that I am talking to a fool,   I want to close  this discussion.

If  you don’t mind please tell me how to lock this topic.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: Newton II on October 01, 2012, 01:25:39 AM

I think this discussion is taking a funny turn.    Topic of this thread is 'Probability of God'.   The question is whether God exists or not.  If you say NO,   then explain :


1)  What is matter?

2)  What is filed?

3)  How this universe came into existance?

4)  How brain works?   Is it just a chemical and electrical reaction or some sort of spirit present in the brain makes it self thinking?  if not can you convert a 
     computer into a self thinking brain with feelings and emotions?

5)  What is the purpose of this life?   Just take birth, earn money and die?

6)  Structure of brain in general is same for all human beings.   But why every one's thinking is different?   What makes a person good or bad?  Why some
     people are happy and some are suffering? 


Unless all the above questions are answered I have to believe that it is all God made.  Because no other explanation is available.  If science explains all the above things,  I would agree that God doesnot exist.

I am  not interested in religion.   I am a better thinker than my elders.  I can formulate my own religion.  Nobody can fool me or exploit me showing a dummy God. 

Vague arguments cannot solve any problem.
the probability of gawd is slim to none. period.

if you say yes there is a gawd... THEN PRESENT ONE SHRED OF EXTANT MATERIAL EVIDENCE OR A LOGICAL PROOF FOR ITS EXISTENCE

vague arguments and non sequiturs are NOT extant material evidence nor logical proofs... neither are your "feelings"...  ::)

since you can't provide either of the above... THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT FAITH... YOU IDIOT.
how about you faithers all just shut the fuck up about your childish little imaginary godfairy savior/creator friends...
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