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Probality of God

Started by Newton II, September 14, 2012, 01:33:36 AM

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WilbyInebriated

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on October 04, 2012, 01:11:36 AM

Ha!  That bold faced sentence made me laugh.  Logical?  Compared to what, humanism, the worship of self?  Reasonable?  God takes the foolish things of this world to confound the wise.  Scientific?  "yet even seeing one come back from the dead, yet they still will not believe". 

What posts of anger, hatred and vitriol.  Not surprising, for "out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks." 

No fear, for "perfect love casts out all fear".  Truth?  ABSOLUTELY!  The truth is that JESUS CHRIST (Messiah) is the way, the truth and the life.  And no man cometh unto the Father but through Him.

Evidence and proof?  A changed heart and a changed life.  Mine.  I once was like you all.  Without faith, without hope and without God.  Heady, highminded, a lover of pleasure more than of God.  A sinner.  Wretched, unhappy, miserable, without hope and with God.  But there is GOOD NEWS!  Jesus, the Son of God, died upon the cross.  He who knew no sin, became sin, taking my shame and penelty of death.  Sin seperates from God.  We have ALL sinned (missed the mark) in comparison to a Holy God.  Eternally lost and without hope.  But God, in His infinate wisdom and love, allowd Jesus, to be a substitute, and to pay the ultimate price.  MY sin was nailed to that cross.  I came to my senses over three decades ago, and accepted payment for my crime.  We have all sinned (in comparison to a Holy God, not to one another), for if any man says that he has not sinned, that man is a liar and the truth is not in him.  But the GOOD NEWS is that our sins can be washed away, and we can be changed, born again.  Born not of this world, but of the spirit.  For that which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the spirit is spirit.  You can neither see the wind nor know from where it came.  But you can see the EFFECTS of that wind upon the things that it influences.  That wind of His Holy Spirit calls out to everone who reads these words, to repent, and to turn to the living God, while there is still time.....
Below is a repost of my Resurrection Sunday message I wrote on my thread, this year.  It is the "proof" that changed my life.  Open your heart and mind.  Call out to Him, and ask Him yourself, to show himself real to you!  He is a living God.  It is not like worshipping idols that neither see nor hear, that are both deaf and dumb.

Resurrection Sunday Message

Good morning and happy Resurrection Sunday.  This day is truly a celebration of the life giving power of the Lord Jesus Christ, by the Power of His Holy Spirit. 

That very same Holy Spirit, whose power enveloped the fallen, crucified corpse of our Savior, uniting his blessed Soul and Spirit, in an instantaneous explosion of resurrection power, Jesus arose from the dead.

Now, across the barrier of time, a young man, at the tender age of 17, cries out to Jesus, asking forgiveness for his sins, and speaking out with his mouth, aloud, that Jesus Christ was Lord, and believed in his heart that God had raised Jesus from the dead.

Suddenly, not in the darkness of a cave, once used as a rich man’s tomb, but rather, in the darkness of a mobile home, His light, shone through the darkness, exploding His love and resurrection power through that young man’s soul and heart.  Like a warm oil flowing from the top of his head to the souls of his teenage feet, Christ’s Holy Spirit poured out God’s love and forgiveness.

That young man  shed tears, borne of a tormented soul, now freed. As he looked around the room he had been kneeling in, he felt different.  He felt new.  He felt clean.  He grew in the knowledge of the Lord and in the Lord’s wisdom.  The Lord Jesus had called him, as a new creation, a new creature in Christ, to walk in newness of life.

The teen grew from youth to manhood, standing on the promise daily, that the mercies of the Lord are new every morning.  Every day the Lord Jesus reaches out by loving kindness, mercy, and undeserved Grace.

He was that young teen. And he is now a middle aged man. A man who understands and recognizes that every breath taken and every beat of his heart brings him one step closer to eternity.  The Lord Jesus Christ has been his best friend throughout his life, since that resurrection day.  He has never failed, nor faltered, and always has the man’s best interest at heart. 

I of course, am that man.



And you too can have your own resurrection story, if you will but humble yourself before a mighty God, speak out with your mouth that Jesus Christ is your Lord, believing with all of your heart that God, has raised Jesus from the dead.  Do this today.  Do this now.  Do not hesitate nor falter.  The religions of this world produce death.  But only a true relationship with God the Father, through Jesus Christ the Lord, can raise you to new life.  Behold old things are passed away, the Bible says, and all things are become new.  The most important, life altering, eternity deciding, choice you can make, is to allow Jesus to become Lord, and savior of your life.  He was raised from the dead, and today, this very moment, is knocking on the door to your heart, wanting to impart His life, peace and joy into you, and to raise you up.



Jesus said, to cast your burdens upon him and to learn of him, for his yoke is easy and his burden is light.  Throw off the burden of doubt and unbelief.  Have faith, and His promises will never falter nor fail, and your name too shall be written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. 

Eternity calls us all, so choose you this day whom you will serve.  Serve self, and you will fail.  Serve religions of man, and it shall come to nothing for they are but dumb idols who neither speak nor see.  Serve money, and it will not last.

For our life is as a vapor of smoke.  Here for a moment and then gone.

But as for me and my house, we will serve the risen Lord Jesus, the messiah and blessed Son of the most High.

And he shall return with the shout of an Angel and the trumpet of God shall sound.  For those who are called by his name they shall be changed. Those who have died in Christ shall rise first.  And then in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye they shall be caught up together to meet the Lord in the air.  And so shall they ever be with Him.  Amen
yes, logical... as compared to the word salad of non sequiturs you continue to post as 'evidence' of your imaginary godfairy/creator/savior friend... the godfairy you have no more evidence for than you have for zeus or odin or vishnu or ra or any of the other gawds you reject... idiot.

and thank you AGAIN for ANOTHER tacit admission that you do not consider yourself logical, reasonable and scientific... since you have repeatedly refused to present the methods you used to falsify all the other gawds humanity has created and have repeatedly refused to present the methods you used to validate your gawd.

edit: to paraphrase dawkins... the doctrine that your precious jesus died for your sins is barking mad... it's truly a disgusting idea that your 'creator' of the universe, capable of inventing the laws of physics and designing the evolutionary process, that this protégé of supernatural intellect couldn't think of a better way to forgive your sins than to have himself tortured to death... ::)
note that i said "your sins"... as they only apply to you asinine faithers and not the rest of humanity.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

TechStuf

Quoteyou have no more evidence for than you have for zeus or odin or vishnu or ra or any of the other gawds you reject... idiot.


As everyone here knows quite well by now, Wilby has deep seated issues with authority.  Methinks he doth protest too much....


Deep down, I believe he was scarred or burned after placing his faith in a brother.  Wilby, you reject meaningful evidence out of hand because none could possibly fill the void left you by your earthly father.  You attack the very idea of our Creator because of pain, not because of lack of evidence.


If God Himself must descend and hold your Hand in view of all before you believe, it is because you've failed to use the two of your own that were freely given you to find Truth.


God does not begin a work in a man and leave it unfinished....


Whether you believe Him or not.


Blessings in Christ 
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS” - 1 Corinthians 3:19

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l39XsMcyvgA

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjIy1DO0gs

We all have the choice to waste ourselves in rebellion or to gain wisdom.  Therefore, gain wisdom:

http://www.hisremnant.org/eby/articles/kingdom/twohands/twohandsof.html

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: TechStuf on October 04, 2012, 02:04:00 AM

As everyone here knows quite well by now, Wilby has deep seated issues with authority.  Methinks he doth protest too much....


Deep down, I believe he was scarred or burned after placing his faith in a brother.  Wilby, you reject meaningful evidence out of hand because none could possibly fill the void left you by your earthly father.  You attack the very idea of our Creator because of pain, not because of lack of evidence.


If God Himself must descend and hold your Hand in view of all before you believe, it is because you've failed to use the two of your own that were freely given you to find Truth.


God does not begin a work in a man and leave it unfinished....


Whether you believe Him or not.


Blessings in Christ
you think i have issues with the 'authority' of your imaginary godfairy? ::) jesus fucking christ... you're insane.

and deep down you 'believe' in imaginary godfairies... so what? you speculate and assume and declare your assumptions and speculations to be factual by fiat? idiot. and what "meaningful evidence" have i rejected? you idiot faithers have none to present... and you aren't even honest enough with your insecure selves to admit that... even though it is the very definition of 'faith'. idiot.

your imaginary godfairy savior/creator friend can't descend and hold my hand...  because she's imaginary you idiot. did you have some extant material evidence and/or a logical proof to present for her existence? or are you just going to vomit the same logical fallacies you asinine faithers always vomit?

god is as real as leprechauns...

whether you believe in logic and reason or not.

may the flying spaghetti monster bless you with her sauce... may you be forever touched by her noodly appendage and may your balls be forever meaty. repent you filthy spooner, repent!
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

WilbyInebriated

techstuf and bruce, the hypocrites, consider their religion worthless as evidenced by the holy bible... which we all know is infallable.

james 1:26
those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless.


bruce must be out gambling... ::)
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

TechStuf




I agree wholeheartedly.  You misapply such scripture because you don't value the very words you cite.  Before one can value anyone or anything else, that one must first value one's self. 


Look inward and see that the seed begun in you is not dead, and neither is the one who sowed it in you in the first place.  Your fight is not with "gawd fairies" and those who believe in our Creator but with yourself and false religions of all kind, including your own.


http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm


Blessings in Christ
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS” - 1 Corinthians 3:19

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l39XsMcyvgA

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjIy1DO0gs

We all have the choice to waste ourselves in rebellion or to gain wisdom.  Therefore, gain wisdom:

http://www.hisremnant.org/eby/articles/kingdom/twohands/twohandsof.html