Probality of God

[Magluvin]

WilbyInebriated,

that was absolutely brilliant!  Unfortunately the message won't pass through their retoric filters, since reason and logic always are of secondary value to these guys. Religion is like a drug, it makes a miserable life and an unfair world endurable.

But here our roads probably parts, since I have personal experiences of realities beyond the physical world. But those experiences never made me fall in to the trap of organized prefabricated religion. It just made me aware that universe consists of a multilayer of adjacent realities, each with their own system of dynamic laws. And it definitely made me aware of the fallacy of Christianity as well as any other organized religion.

The probability of  a god in the traditional sense: ZERO

The probability of a non favouring INTENT behind the dynamics of universe: 50/50

The probability of mankind being the most stupid of  all species in relation to brain volume: Undisputed

Like Einstein said:  "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

Gwandau

Einstien

“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends,” Einstein wrote in German in a 1954 letter that will be auctioned on eBay later this month. "No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”

How do we choose of what this man says and consider it truth or reality? ;]

Our President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize, shall we follow his words, Hope, Change, Forward?

Gwandau says...

"But here our roads probably parts, since I have personal experiences of realities beyond the physical world."

Well these are the only proofs we have to offer. Our testimony is the best we can do. And the way it is passed on to the next person is that they have to have a little belief 'enough' to be willing and try. Then they will come to see why Gwandau says what he says, and Ramset says what he says. They believed enough to try, they have experienced and felt it.  As have I. ;]

If God had made it all, so that he were physically provable, and especially 'visible', while still being all knowing and omnipotent, and everywhere at the same time, this would be a different place, and more interestingly, for a different purpose than proposed in the Bible.

The times we are in today are described well in the Bible, and if you know it well, you know whats coming 'soon'.  Not the same "soon" used in the past generations, as that "soon" meant that the end of your individual life here on Earth is coming soon, so it is best to not waste time, because there is no telling if that end is today or tomorrow...   ;]

These days you can be arrested for having some people over for Bible study. Why is that? Is it the Wilby Agenda?  There are many like him and our Government seems to be following suit.

So with all the repression and suppression soon to be on the increase, I say it is a good thing that we can 'identify' what the Bible says of the end times. And it becomes clearer and clearer as time moves on. Now that these things are more easily identifiable, It should help people pay more attention than they have before. ;]

Magzimus Leviticus   

[hoptoad]

I've heard it said the apple deal was just a metaphor for another much more involved Temptation.
Carnal in nature.
snip....

According to the modern english versions of the bible, (ones that I can understand since I don't speak latin), the "apple" is actually meant to be "the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil"

So, by their actions, Adam and Eve were supposedly cursed and punished for aquiring the "knowledge" that good and evil exist.

Go figure.

[ramset]

I must say the "knowledge" part and the need to Punish ,always baffled me.

I might also add that Text that Bruce posted above also use to baffle Me,to the point where I just read it with absolutely No comprehension.

Reading it now ,after reading some of the things posted here [about beliefs]
Which I was honestly Clueless about
as well as the whole Knowledge Of Gods Secrets Etc........

So much of that just jumps off the page now.
As Mags says it is clearer that something is going on Now that was written long ago.

But thats Just Me !

Thx
Chet

[WilbyInebriated]

Well these are the only proofs we have to offer.

don't be coy or stupid... you know damn well those aren't 'proofs'.

it's your xian agenga to promote the spread of ignorance...

[WilbyInebriated]

These days you can be arrested for having some people over for Bible study. Why is that? Is it the Wilby Agenda?  There are many like him and our Government seems to be following suit.

that's not my agenda... in point of fact, if you kept your stupid, illogical unreasonable faith at home i wouldn't have to be serving you logic lessons in public. but... since you insist upon inflicting your stupidity and ignorance upon the public you get what we have here, which is the way you want it.