Probality of God

[Gwandau]

'Stopping thinking'  is quite common in nature and I don't think  someone has to take drugs for that.    Most of other animals also have got brain and they also can think but in a very low form compared to human beings.   Hence these animals can easily stop thinking and enter into state of hybernation.  During hybernation animal's heart beat, body temperature and other metabolic activities get reduced to a great extent.    I read somewhere that when a human being enters into deep meditation his metabolic activities rate also goes down.   Hybernation is different from normal sleeping -  While sleeping, your anabolic activities only stop but metabolic activites  like heart beat, respiration, digestion etc.,  will be going on as usual.

 
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/human-hibernation-hypothermia.html

@ Newton II,

What on earth are you talking about?  Hibernation?!  You really lost it there, did you not?

We were talking about BEING HERE AND NOW by not thinking. Fully aware, fully mentally conscious of everything around us to a degree far exceeding the ability of a thinking mind.

HIBERNATION?  LOL.

Don't fly higher than you can navigate.


Gwandau

[Gwandau]

First God Requirement: God wants us to believe first To see and Not! to see first and believe.

@ Tito L. Oracion,

wrong, your male god never said that, because "he" have never said anything whatsoever, and you know it very well.

All words of your god comes from hearsay, from someone else telling you he heard it.

And you know just as well as me that the bible carry no proof of anything, even if it, among a bunch of letters, also contains quite interesting historical documents taken from serveral other older religions and edited to fit into the gnostic preparations that would later be labeled Christianity. A book written by men.

To believe this hearsay to the degree of letting all your doubts fly away will certainly give you the same kick as the sane gets when taking the critical final step into insanity.
But I really do not critisize this step of yours, everyone is free to believe whatever one wants as long as he/she expresses a sound integrity by keeping it for him/herself.

And to believe something that is not been proven by scientific indenpendent sources is fully OK as long as you are fully aware that you just believe and really don't know.

But the moment you take the step into BELIEVING THAT YOU KNOW, you are no longer a sane person.

To believe that you know has nothing to do with knowledge.  To believe that you know is still just believing.
Don't you get it?  The mistake is right there in front of your eyes.

And the moment you confuse your belief with knowledge, you end being humble.
Now you start imposing your belief upon others, making you a not very humble person.

Stick with your belief if you feel the need, but don't think you know, because you don't.

Gwandau

[ramset]

Gwandau

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We were talking about BEING HERE AND NOW by not thinking. Fully aware, fully mentally conscious of everything around us to a degree far exceeding the ability of a thinking mind.
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Knowing a bit about what you speak of.[not enough]

would you have the whole planet  in this state ?
Or is this for a select few?

Do you have an agenda with this [besides this "awareness" obliviating all things "God"] ?

By Agenda I mean to Spread this Experience to others,to share?

Or is there some satisfaction in being so Unique,... that you would miss if everyone was just like you ?

The ability to stay in "this day" or Now is not all that novel,but quite hard to do.

Just trying to understand..........
Thx
Chet

[Bruce_TPU]

Why are you preaching?  Until you come up with evidence beyond what is in your mind, this has no bearing on the probability of god's existence, which is what this thread is about.

I have given you all evidence time and time again, but you refuse to hear.  The "evidence", one of MANY is a changed life.  MINE.  And BILLIONS of others around the globe through out the last 2 thousand years.

Evidence:  Jesus Christ rose from the dead.  Historical FACT, and the fact that I have personally met Him, I can also vouch for the truth of the matter.

Evidence:  Bible prophecy.  There is no God like our God who knows the end from the beginning.  Hundreds of bible prophecies fulfilled and yet to be fulfilled.  Jesus alone fulfilled EXACTLY, to THE LETTER, over 139 specific Bible prophecies, ranging from his prebirth, birth, life, death and ressurection.  The ODDS of this happening by chance, are about the same as the following story:

A man is flying over the Pacific Ocean in a plane.  He drops a wedding ring from that plane at an altitude of 10,000 feet.  The next day, he goes back in a helicopter, and using a fishing pole with a hook, ensnares that same small finger ring.  EVIDENCE.... HA!  It is EVERYWHERE!!!  But seeing you do not see and hearing you do not hear.  ALL of creation speaks of God and His wisdom and power can be seen in everything, so you are WITHOUT EXCUSE, O MAN!

Evidence:  Have you ever seen your brain?  How do you know that you have one?  You have seen and studied other people and creatures brains, but have you physically laid eyes on your own?  Do you really know?  The "evidence" is that you have one, right?  But without seeing an XRay of your own, you can't prove it?  Or can you?  I believe you could. 

Take a deep breath.  Did you inhale air?  How do you know?  Can you see it?  The Lord's Spirit can not be see at this time, neither can the wind!  But just like you can see the effects of the wind as it blows, so too, in like manner can you see the effects of God's Holy Spirit.  We see it in creation.  We see it in the multitude of CHANGED lives.  We see it in Bible prophecy fulfilled, being fulfilled and YET to be fulfilled. 
But still, the crux of the matter is FAITH.  And without FAITH it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God!!  For he that believes, must believe that GOD IS, and that he is a rewarder of those that seek after him.

Evidence abounds!  As a matter of fact there is so much evidence of our Creator in Creation, it makes me laugh out loud, (LOL to us geeks) to hear the doubters go on.  Funny, I have friends like me, whose IQ's are in the genius level and they all have unwavering faith in God.  So it is not a matter of intelligence but of "calling".  You see, no one can come unto the Father unless His Spirit first draws their heart.  Some readers here perhaps sense that drawing even as they read.  Open your heart to Him and believe!

His Servant,

Bruce

[Qwert]

 Jesus Christ rose from the dead.  It's NOT a historical FACT. It's a religious fact. Historical fact is Jesus' life however.