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Probality of God

Started by Newton II, September 14, 2012, 01:33:36 AM

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Magluvin

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 10, 2012, 12:01:19 AM
fuck you you lying bitch... i have nicely asked you for evidence for years... and you have been nothing but a sanctimonious prick the whole time. i have 'eloquently' and patiently exampled for you your failings in logic... i have told you what the logical fallacy is and why it is a logical fallacy and yet you insist on repeating the same asinine arguments over and over and over that were refuted long ago... IN STONE.

http://www.overunity.com/9560/late-harvest-moon/

http://www.overunity.com/11661/new-renaissance-prizes-offered-to-encourage-energy-experimenters/

http://www.overunity.com/6575/the-god-haters/

you do what you do... saying something stupid and waiting to be called on it so you can claim persecution and then proceed to use the asinine delusion that you are being persecuted to say "it is as jesus foretold in the holey babble!"  you're a lunatic.

Again, the Fool drops his credibility rating by 10 more points!!! Incredible!!!

A recap of Fools post, for historical purposes....

"fuck you you lying bitch... i have nicely asked you for evidence for years... "

For years? Me? Prove it!  ;D   Ill be up late to see this. Might not get to sleep at all. Ever. ;)

Keepum coming Fool. One day you will get better. Just need some practice.  ;) ;D

Wow, how can anyone believe what you say now Fool. Its like character suicide.

Magzimus Leviticus

WilbyInebriated

you made your bed... now lie in it.
Quote from: Magluvin on October 10, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
Again, the Fool drops his credibility rating by 10 more points!!! Incredible!!!

A recap of Fools post, for historical purposes....

"fuck you you lying bitch... i have nicely asked you for evidence for years... "

For years? Me? Prove it!  ;D   Ill be up late to see this. Might not get to sleep at all. Ever. ;)

Keepum coming Fool. One day you will get better. Just need some practice.  ;) ;D

Wow, how can anyone believe what you say now Fool. Its like character suicide.

Magzimus Leviticus

from november 28, 2011...
http://www.overunity.com/11661/new-renaissance-prizes-offered-to-encourage-energy-experimenters/msg306737/#msg306737
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on November 28, 2011, 06:05:35 PM
why the need to  talk about your imaginary friend?  i wouldn't tolerate a child in here talking about imaginary friends... why should i tolerate it from an allegedly rational, thinking adult? you don't wanna hear me tell you your friend is imaginary? don't talk about him... or provide a single shred of material evidence and/or a logical proof for your imaginary friend. you bet there are more people here that have faith in imaginary godfairies than not... so what? so because i am surrounded by idiots that have no capacity for critical thinking or reason and logic i should do as they do? do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? do you know what an appeal to popularity is?

i never said what you are suggesting i said... ::) how about not putting words in my mouth and instead attempting to answer (scientifically) the simple questions i posed... once again, do you have a single shred of material evidence and/or  a logical proof for the existence of your imaginary godfairy superhero savior friend? i'll wait...  ;)

8.7 million results... and how many peer reviewed scientific studies did you find that support prayer working?

imaginary friends are for immature minds... grow up a bit eh?

http://www.overunity.com/11661/new-renaissance-prizes-offered-to-encourage-energy-experimenters/msg306745/#msg306745
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on November 28, 2011, 06:53:06 PM
great you have faith in an imaginary friend... why do you feel the need to tell me about him?

yes it would be a laugh... because none of what you would present would qualify as material evidence nor a logical proof. right? ;)

that's because you were busy cherry picking what you wanted to answer and avoiding the rest... ;) i said "serious scientists"... ::) which would involve peer review, wouldn't it?

i am aware of the myths mags... probably more so than you. i did receive my primary education at a private parochial school. however, i embrace logic and reason, so the indoctrination didn't hold... that being said, do you have a single shred of material evidence or a logical proof for this godfairy?

get a billion christians to pray for a single amputee. get them to pray that god regrow that missing limb. this happens to salamanders every day, presumably without prayer; this is within the capacity of god. i find it interesting that people of faith only tend to pray for conditions that are self-limiting... how typical.

i'll pray to the flying spaghetti monster to save your rotten soul... ;)

edit: i'll pray to the flying spaghetti monster to save your rotten soul too chet... i see you posting, but all it says is 'you are ignoring this user'. :)

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on November 29, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
firstly, with regard to defending and upholding reason, gawd need not be disproven for theism to be shown to be unreasonable. all that needs to be done is to show that belief in a gawd â€" especially a particular gawd â€" has not been substantiated. similarly, one need not demonstrate the non-existence of martian overlords living below the surface of sweden in order to demonstrate that belief in such a proposition is silly.

secondly, regarding live and let live with regard to religion. i can understand how one would come to this conclusion. however, i don’t think this is something we should just be silent about. the reason being that these beliefs are not simply private personal matters. these beliefs really do affect the way individuals, groups and societies think and behave. religion played massive roles in the following things: defending slavery, motivating and justifying murder, abusive and oppression of gays, women, apostates, nonbelievers, believers of other faith, and other races, motivating and/or justifying terrorism, interfering with scientific research (e.g., stem cell research) and polluting scientific education (creationism, intelligent design), discouraging some from seeking or providing medical treatment or preventative treatments for self, children or others, etc. furthermore, our excusing of the unreason that we call religion has opened the floodgates for either types for other opportunistic attempts to exploit people’s trustworthiness and “openmindedness” â€" e.g., the cult of scientology, homeopathy, psychics, overunity and so on.

the idea that religious beliefs are simply personal is 100% untrue. live and let live is hardly justified when religious communities are consistent offenders and consistently affect people in rationally and morally indefensible ways.


and finally, we DO know prayer doesn’t work...

the templeton foundation sponsored a study (american heart journal 151:4, 2006, 934-42) wherein 1802 coronary bypass patients were divided into 3 groups â€" group 1 received prayers for quick recovery and no complications but did not know it, group 2 (control group) received no prayers, and group 3 received prayers and did know it.

the results were clear cut â€" there was NO DIFFERENCE in the recovery of those who received prayers and those who did not.

interestingly, there WAS a difference between groups 1 and 3 however â€" group 3 patients had significantly more complications (performance anxiety?)

now i agree the study is kind of lame... after all recovering from heart surgery happens all the time. i would prefer to see a study like the one i alluded to earlier with an amputee... but you 'faithers' and i both know that will never happen... right?

now fuck off and go to bed you lying, sanctimonious godbot troll. ::)
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Magluvin

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 10, 2012, 12:07:19 AM
you... as in you xians... as in
nice ad hominem logical fallacy... what does the words i say have to do with you presenting extant material evidence and/or a logical proof for the existence of your imaginary godfairy savior/creator friend?

EHHH wrong ansa. And, what? ???   lol   

Magzimus Leviticus.

Neo-X

Children i will give a proof that god is exist if u all are stop fighting.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: Neo-X on October 10, 2012, 12:19:53 AM
Children i will give a proof that god is exist if u all are stop fighting.
great... ::)  another moronic godbot armed with another holy hand grenade of non sequiturs...   ::)
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe