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Overunity Machines Forum



Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower

Started by inventacom, September 15, 2012, 11:13:45 AM

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Goat

@Inventacom

I've been looking at the information you've sent us and it's all great so far but...In order to replicate your working model I would need more info...such as.

Fan blower:

Model:
Manufacturer:
Year:
Other: Any other info on this motor.

Transmission/Gearbox:

This is where I'm stuck, from what I've seen so far it's not clear how you did it, if the above mentioned motor is supposed to drive the generator then how do we determine the gear ratio?  We need more info on this in order to make it work as you did.

Generator:

The information you gave us is specific to that generator, can it be substituted for an equivalent generator head of the same KW output or does this affect the Transmission/Gearbox ratio?

RV 120AC/12VDCConverter:

Model:
Manufacturer:
Year:
Other: Any other info on this converter?

Any thing else I missed?

Regards,
Paul Gauthier

PS: I've already got most of the parts to make this work but they could be all wrong...LOL





Vortex1

I have a 10KW AC generator head from Harbor Freight. Also have a DC machine about the same size/weight.

Got a auto blower motor and an assortment of other DC motors.

Anyone have experience with the Harbor Freight machine?

http://www.harborfreight.com/10000-watts-max-7200-watts-rated-belt-driven-generator-head-45416.html

For our shop use, we've built a setup to generate Three Phase AC from Single Phase using a 3 phase motor self excited with capacitors, so have some experience with belts, pulleys motors, and generators.

Variable sheave pulley allows precise frequency adjustment to 60 Hz, shown below.

b_rads

Just a suggestion, I have a specific question that I would like to ask @inventacom concerning information we received.  I am fairly confident that other users have or will have questions about as well.  It would be nice if we could send those questions to our elected TL’s (Team Leaders) and compiled for all approved participants so they could review.  I prefer to abide by my pledge to not disclose any of @inventacom’s sharing of information with the group, but if the questions are too specific, would that not be the same thing?   :-X
Maybe a text file, PDF, spreadsheet, ect,. updated with questions and answers.  I am not trying to burden the TL’s with additional responsibilities, but how else do we ask questions and know what questions other ask that we may not have thought of yet?
@Goat - those are terrific questions if we are to start with an exact replication.  IMHO - this is the correct direction to proceed.  I believe @inventacom commented that he was building a parts list for us, however specific model number parts as you requested is very important.  :)

Brad S

e2matrix

b_rads,  There will be a solution for that situation very shortly - by tomorrow I think at the latest.   I'm just waiting on a word from Inventacom.   Both myself and gadgetmall have been working on that exact problem at the suggestion of Inventacom.  You will get email soon about this so for now hold the questions - it won't be long. 

Magluvin

Been thinking about it a bit. I know that we are suppose to try to use a car fan motor that works, but, brushless motors come to mind.

Some of these hobby shop motors are super efficient and can put out some HP at very high rpms. ( im still stuck on the high rpm motor geared down, since I dont have an idea of what to do.)

Wouldnt that be a funny YT vid of a lil 3 in dia motor driving that big ole gen?

What got me thinking is, if we have (2) sets of pulleys (2) belts and then a gear box, we are probably losing a 'great' deal there to start with. Not saying it doesnt work, just that I think there could be big losses there. So if there is extra energy from all this, a good amount is being spent there.
What could be in the gear box? We have a pulley system on the motor to gear box that is a gear up situation as the input to the gear box spins faster than the motor shaft. And then another gear up situation after the gear box to the gen. Just the pulleys themselves gear up quite a bit. So I find it 'hard' to believe that the gear box is a further gear up situation. Very hard.  Unless...

DC motors have the most torque at low rpm. Yup. Hmm. ;]

Or, gearing up, then gearing down, then back up again has some mystical effects on power. ;]

That guy that had magnetic gears at Peswiki, a motor and like 3 or 4 gens, Ive had some experience with magnetic gearing and like that guy has his, the drag is mostly pressure on the bearings of the motor/gens, using the staggered layout of the mags on the wheels. The ones between other will have less of this pressure due to being pressured from both sides causing cancellation.  Maybe after all this if we get things going, we can implement some ideas like these to further development. ;]

Anyway, thats my thoughts for the day. ;]

MaGs