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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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lost_bro

Quote from: zalmoxis on February 09, 2017, 06:26:49 PM
Yes,the waveform  after the capacitor who connects the inductor there is where i have the highest peak around 140 Volt if i power pushpul with 12 volt, and around 260V if i power push pull at 24Volt.
When the tesla pulse hits the peak of the inductor wave i have a drop on amps from 2.4 Amps to 2.2Amps

Now i have another problem ... if i power the pushpull at 24volt ... the 160Volt zener diode between ground and drain gets too hot .. i have around 176-180volt on the zenner.


Good day Zalmoxis

OK, so is this peak of the inductor wave Current or Voltage, and how are you measuring it? 

Do you have a series resistor in place on the Inductor loop to to take measurements?

Or are you scoping across the capacitor to measure the  peak of the inductor wave ?

Is your system using PLL?

Now i have another problem;  you will probably need to use a Snubber or Clamp (dissipative or regenerative) across the switches on the primary of the toroid.  As you noted a Zener will only heat up once it crosses it's Vreverse breakdown....... and doesn't do too much to solve the problem.  A regenerative clamp would be the best route to go as a last resort, if after cleaning up all the wiring, ie; making all connections as short as possible on the Primary power loop in order to keep parasitic inductance to a minimum doesn't help.

Also, it looks like the Karcher / antenna signal is seriously distorting the Push_Pull Gate waveforms at the moment of the Karcher Pulse. You might be able to clean up / clamp the Negative Ringing on the Blue trace with just a Schottky diode placed from Source (anode) > Gate (cathode).

The Push_Pull waveforms looks like max amplitude of 10-11 volts.  If those are Mosfets I would hit the Gate with nothing less than 15 volts positive to be certain they are turning ON completely. If the FETs only partially turn on, they will run Hot. 

good luck.

take care, peace
lost_bro


zalmoxis

Quote from: lost_bro on February 09, 2017, 07:20:11 PM
Good day Zalmoxis

OK, so is this peak of the inductor wave Current or Voltage, and how are you measuring it? 

Do you have a series resistor in place on the Inductor loop to to take measurements?

Or are you scoping across the capacitor to measure the  peak of the inductor wave ?

Is your system using PLL?

Now i have another problem;  you will probably need to use a Snubber or Clamp (dissipative or regenerative) across the switches on the primary of the toroid.  As you noted a Zener will only heat up once it crosses it's Vreverse breakdown....... and doesn't do too much to solve the problem.  A regenerative clamp would be the best route to go as a last resort, if after cleaning up all the wiring, ie; making all connections as short as possible on the Primary power loop in order to keep parasitic inductance to a minimum doesn't help.

Also, it looks like the Karcher / antenna signal is seriously distorting the Push_Pull Gate waveforms at the moment of the Karcher Pulse. You might be able to clean up / clamp the Negative Ringing on the Blue trace with just a Schottky diode placed from Source (anode) > Gate (cathode).

The Push_Pull waveforms looks like max amplitude of 10-11 volts.  If those are Mosfets I would hit the Gate with nothing less than 15 volts positive to be certain they are turning ON completely. If the FETs only partially turn on, they will run Hot. 

good luck.

take care, peace
lost_bro



The output of pushpull IR2110 without transistors connected is a clean 11.6 Volt square signal.
When the transistors are connected the signal i measure from the IR2110 output right before the 4,7ohm resistors becomes altered is not perfect 90degrees sharp.
I have tried ferrite filters on pushpull command wires, also ferrite on pushpul power supply pins , i have added different capacitor values right on the pushpull transformer posivite pins to ground , not a visible effect , the noise is still present on my IR2110 output.
What else can i try to get rid of that noise on low output from IR2110 probably that comes from the IRF260n transistors when they have a load. I also put short power conductors and shortened the pushpull transformer wires.

And now back to your questions:
I think i've measured peak voltage .. because i don't know how to measure Amps with oscilloscope.
I have attached an image to see how i've measured.
What do you mean by my system is using PLL ? ..
I use this schematic http://overunity.com/16674/sergey-alexeev-free-energy-gen-documentation/dlattach/attach/158300/image//
But on my PCB from sergey the push-pull transistors circuit is a bit different from those HER306 the 160Volt Zener goes to ground.
On my attached images with purple i measure the voltage on that Zener diode to avoid overheating it starts getting hot ar around 180Volt.
That voltage increases if i turn OFF one of the 2 bulbs used as a load ..  see the attached images.


The white connector in the positive 24Volt i use it with the thick red wire as a shunt for my ammeter.
The pushpull circuit is now on top of the power supply to keep wires as short as possible.
What can i do to reduce noise ? Or it's fine like this ?  ;D
About the zener diode what can i do ??! i use 4 diodes now in parallel to increase "diode power"  ::)
On 12 volts power supply i have no zener diode problems ..

AlienGrey

On this type of device and others similar I have noticed the Tesla coil appears to be absorbed onto the outer 6 turn winding of the Aerial coil and collected by the 'over winding on the grenade coil' and not through the actual grenade multi-layer coil.

Also the at the same time the secondary over winding coil appears to modulate the multilayer grenade coil with the push-pull modulation. What is the use or significance it that to do with anything here in this device other than a shift in frequency (that is not reflected from the Tesla to grenade coil? 

The fact is we need to see a working device and the related device coils frequency relationships and interactions with that working device to know how the device actually works, before proceeding.

T-1000

Hi zalmoxis,

In regards to  photo_2017-02-10_14-21-23.jpg - you can try bifilar winding with connection between 2 layers as the centre tap.
That will make huge difference to heating up of components and to the output ringing...

Also the yoke can be tightened up so the noise will be gone.

Cheers!

AlienGrey

Quote from: zalmoxis on February 10, 2017, 07:25:16 AM


The output of pushpull IR2110 without transistors connected is a clean 11.6 Volt square signal.
When the transistors are connected the signal i measure from the IR2110 output right before the 4,7ohm resistors becomes altered is not perfect 90degrees sharp.
I have tried ferrite filters on pushpull command wires, also ferrite on pushpul power supply pins , i have added different capacitor values right on the pushpull transformer posivite pins to ground , not a visible effect , the noise is still present on my IR2110 output.
What else can i try to get rid of that noise on low output from IR2110 probably that comes from the IRF260n transistors when they have a load. I also put short power conductors and shortened the pushpull transformer wires.

And now back to your questions:
I think i've measured peak voltage .. because i don't know how to measure Amps with oscilloscope.
I have attached an image to see how i've measured.
What do you mean by my system is using PLL ? ..
I use this schematic http://overunity.com/16674/sergey-alexeev-free-energy-gen-documentation/dlattach/attach/158300/image//
But on my PCB from sergey the push-pull transistors circuit is a bit different from those HER306 the 160Volt Zener goes to ground.
On my attached images with purple i measure the voltage on that Zener diode to avoid overheating it starts getting hot ar around 180Volt.
That voltage increases if i turn OFF one of the 2 bulbs used as a load ..  see the attached images.


The white connector in the positive 24Volt i use it with the thick red wire as a shunt for my ammeter.
The pushpull circuit is now on top of the power supply to keep wires as short as possible.
What can i do to reduce noise ? Or it's fine like this ?  ;D
About the zener diode what can i do ??! i use 4 diodes now in parallel to increase "diode power"  ::)
On 12 volts power supply i have no zener diode problems ..
Can I suggest you rig your Tesla coil to just 3.34 mhz and attach your scope to the shorted 38m coil using a ferrite toroid with about 100 turns of thin copper wire (by passing one of the leads through the 'core' using it as a pickup device) and you look for an output or feed the Tesla coil with a signal gen  and scan for resonant output frequencies you can use .