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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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forest

It has strong scientific ground to convert this "activity" into infinite  COP but the output is not very large. Exactly how Tesla described it - you can get the excess from ambient using this method.
Ask here : this guy is very very close http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3453.0;topicseen

forest

Quote from: Void on December 23, 2017, 10:41:53 AM
Hi Jeg. I can't follow what you are saying there. The input power was from a generator
so he would have most probably been referring to average input power (for example 1kW), but
that does not mean that he couldn't have been referring to instantaneous power when
referring to power at the output of hundreds of thousands or millions of Watts/HP.

From Tesla's analogy of comparing it to a pile driver, it does appear that Tesla was talking about
instantaneous power. If you think about it, if Tesla was able to increase the average power
from the average input power to the average output power by such a huge factor by simply pulsing
a tesla coil, then that would have been huge news back then, just as it would be now, and many
people who experiment with pulsing tesla coils with spark gaps should have noticed this massive average
power gain by now as well, don't you think?

All the best...



Yes, but in other part he told us about the circuit  oscillated for 3 years !

Void

Quote from: forest on December 23, 2017, 10:46:44 AM
It has strong scientific ground to convert this "activity" into infinite  COP but the output is not very large. Exactly how Tesla described it - you can get the excess from ambient using this method.
Ask here : this guy is very very close http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3453.0;topicseen

Hi forest. It turned out that Vasik had measurement error and there was no COP >1 in his test setup.
He had posted here at overunity.com a while back suggesting people try his setup, and I pointed
out to him at the time that with the output being only in the very low microWatts that it was too easy
to be mislead by measurement error or similar. It seems that was the case. Running test setups that
run at very low power levels can potentially be very misleading. Always better to try to test at higher
power levels where ever possible, where measurement error becomes less of a factor. :)

All the best...

Jeg

Quote from: Void on December 23, 2017, 10:41:53 AM
Hi Jeg. I can't follow what you are saying there. The input power was from a generator
so he would have most probably been referring to average input power (for example 1kW), but
that does not mean that he couldn't have been referring to instantaneous power when
referring to power at the output of hundreds of thousands or millions of Watts/HP.

From Tesla's analogy of comparing it to a pile driver, it does appear that Tesla was talking about
instantaneous power. If you think about it, if Tesla was able to increase the average power
from the average input power to the average output power by such a huge factor by simply pulsing
a tesla coil, then that would have been huge news back then, just as it would be now, and many
people who experiment with pulsing tesla coils with spark gaps should have noticed this massive average
power gain by now as well, don't you think?

All the best...


Hi Void
Of course this is open for discussion. Anyone can interpret it according to his own point of view and understanding. Are we sure we both think the same when speaking about damped waves and quenched spark gaps? You see, a discussion of this kind has to start from the basics. Tesla looks straight on this. About the nail and the hammer example Tesla shows the importance of breaking the wave at the peak. Think that a continuous wave is like moving up and down a hammer continually. But instead, if we stop the oscillation at the peak, the impact is huge. If this huge impact could be imposed on hammer's oscillation then the output would be dramatically increased without spending more power for moving the hammer.

Hi Nick, thank you :)
I am building a katcher right now for attempting one more time. Gosh!!! Nick you are a bad influence ;D Keep it up.




Void

Hi Jeg. I still don't follow you. A pile driver (or hammer) releases stored potential energy
in sudden bursts when you bring the pile driver or hammer down very quickly. That is quite clear cut.
It can not be interpreted in different ways. :) When you raise up the pile driver or hammer over time,
you are storing up the potential energy over time, and then when you bring it down very quickly
you are converting that stored up potential energy into kinetic energy in a very short time period. This
analogy is to a capacitor where you store up energy in it over time (charge it up over a time period) and then
release this stored energy in a quick burst in a very short period of time through something like
a sparkgap. This can produce a very large instantaneous power at the output over a very short period of
time. This appears to me to be what Tesla was referring to. Anyone is free to interpret anything
in any way they wish however, so no worries. :)

Anyway, as I said previously, if Tesla had found a way to increase average power at the output
by many times over the average input power by pulsing a tesla coil, then that with little doubt would have
been very big news even in Tesla's time. It seems quite unlikely to me then that this is what Tesla was talking
about. It seems much more likely he was talking about instantaneous power. Interpreting it as short duration
pulses of very high instantaneous power is still something very interesting to consider however.

All the best...