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SolarLab

Quote from: stivep on March 03, 2018, 08:37:54 PM
please provide me with prove.
who is we?yes it is real.Yes it might, however at now it is as real as Russian rocket with  nuclear engine - everyone's watching  and laughing at .. because that's not true.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/putin-claims-russia-has-nuclear-arsenal-capable-of-avoiding-missile-defenses/2018/03/01/d2dcf522-1d3b-11e8-b2d9-08e748f892c0_story.html?utm_term=.eb7877676bf3Please provide  me with the link to the panel of your discussion.-90% of my lab is not in the field of RF,  the large part of it is in area of particle physics. Lab has two locations and over 500 instruments.
- I do appreciate the link it is entertaining, but inconsistent.
in 1903 Majority of the transmitters of  that time have been spark transmitters and no way in the world  any selective filtering  was ready to  make such communication possible. Not even in Russia. :)
The RF was mostly domain of Marconi  who.. it was told ... he illegally possessed  personal intellectual property  from Tesla.Please provide me with  patent number of Tesla spread spectrum from March 17, 1903.Verification  of information is the key requirement in science , unless article was  written for amusement of general public. please provide me with link

Note:www.alphanewsdaily.com/news75.htmlThis article given to us by SolarLab was likely taken from propaganda site managed by Russian trolls
They operate by principals 60% of truth and 40% of lies
Legitimacy is achieved by them attacking Russian  news, posing as pro-west oriented in reality it contains incorrect problematic or falsified  information , often  disproving a proposition, hypothesis, or theory
I have contacted today my friends in Moscow and that is the conclusion   coming out  from that conversation

Wesley

Hi Wesley,

I'll have to get back to you on the above.
Sorry but I'm a little busy at the moment with the chat group.


Regards




SolarLab

Wesley,

A little break here so let me quickly follow-up.

Rather than me regurgitating a huge load of stuff for you, try this:

Log into any of the forums (sign up if you need to) and simply search
"Solarlab". It goes back quite a few years but there very few posts so
it shouldn't take you too long.

Of course if you follow the provided information you will need to brew
a few pots of coffee!

With respect to Longitudinal Waves you'll have to try an academic search
engine to acquire any real papers. Many are pay-wall but there are still
some good ones in the public domain. Also consider "Ultra-Wide-Band" as
much of the good information, for some reason, falls under that label.
Dr. Konstantine Meyl is a good start as well w.r.t. mathematical proof as is
the original Maxwell equations. Just do the math and it works out.

Let me add; it appears your "fascination," for lack of a better term, with
Russian Trolls and such does seem a bit bazaar to say the least; but I can
empathize knowing your background and your history in this OU game.

The development chronology of Spread Spectrum (FHSS and DSSS) is common
knowledge. Try this link, it may be a little less "Commie" for you:
http://www.sss-mag.com/shistory.html

And, if I've offended you in some way (as it seems) then please accept
my apologies. It was surely not done with any malice nor intent (but it may not
remain that way much longer  >:( - keep it up and you'll be sent to the corner).

SL

stivep

Dear  SolarLab.
Thank you for your time

QuoteIn addition Meyl advertises its conviction that classical electrodynamics on the basis of Maxwell's equations is incomplete and needs to be replaced by a theory which he himself founded.
Central concepts in it are " potential vortex "," scalar "or" neutrino Power "(also in relation to theexpansion theory of the Earth).
He claims, so that a unified field theory to have developed, from which all known interactions are derived. [2]

Furtwangen University has distanced himself from Meyls ideas, noting that they are "scientifically and methodologically not recognized, but in the professional world are extremely controversial,"
and made clear that they are not the subject of its activities at the faculty.
Furthermore Meyl may hold about his theories no lectures at the university. [3] [4]
Critics Meyls are mathematics professor Gerhard Bruhn , the GWUP is member, and Klaus Keck.
Bruhn has mathematical errors and inconsistencies identified which are undermined Meyl in the derivation of his theory. [5] [6]
Outside the skeptics movement , Thomas Eibert has dealt to the research community radio with some work Meyls. [7]

The Institute for Gravitational Research of Göde Science Foundation has examined the products marketed by Meyl experimental kit
and came to the conclusion that all observations in the framework of classical electrodynamics by transfer with transverse electromagnetic waves could be explained. [8]
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Meyl


This is a comment from my friend in science:Dr Roy:

I have delved further into the works of Herr Meyl.  It would seem that
he has only published in a dubious organization magazine, "Society
for Scientific Exploration", which publishes spurious articles in the
field of Homeopathic Medicine, Distant Healing, Remote Viewing,
Photonic Measurement of Apparent Presence of Spirit using a Computer
Automated System, Advances in Reincarnation Research, Precognition As
Preventive Medicine, Research on Spiritual Mediums,  Using
Parapsychology to Test Fundamental Physics...


I could go on and on and on.  The magazine could be more accurately
titled "Crackpot Ideas Monthly".  It is the very opposite of a
respected scientific journal.  His other publisher appears to be
himself.  He has a bunch of self published books and booklets.  I had
the opportunity to see one of his self published books, "Konstantin
Meyl - Scalar Waves" (I could send you the pdf file if you are
interested), a 657 page tract of the most tortured English translation
I ever had the misfortune to try to comprehend.  Even the nontechnical
conversational paragraphs are so bizarrely translated into the English
language as to make his sentences devoid of any actual meaning.  His
technical paragraphs, if possible, are even more confusing.  The only
audience for this nonsense (in my humble opinion) are people who think
that the information in his book are gibberish to them only because
his thoughts are so advanced and therefore correct, and not that he
hired his nephew to do a half-assed translation.  This book is pure
gibberish.  I can not offer an opinion of his other translated works
or his original German works, but I would not be surprised if they
were gibberish too.

I would strongly recommend that you
look at a very well thought out discussion of "Scalar Waves", "What
are 'Scalar Waves' by Horst Eckardt.  It is short and concise, and
offers a conventional explanation for Meyl's toy, which Meyl believes
is a longitudinal wave/scalar wave transmitter, but  is really just a
capacitively coupled device that operates due to well understood and
accepted conventional principles:

http://www.novam-research.com/resources/What-are-Scalar-Waves_Horst-Eckardt_Jan-2012.pdf

The fact that Herr Meyl thinks he has derived the Grand Unified Theory
of Physics and totally disproved Einstein's Theories of Relativity
strike me as signs of psychological problems
Wesley (ask you your wife about  Grandiose delusions).
QuoteWesley's comment : My wife is psychologist  who graduated one of the best European universities
He seems to use Vortex Field Theory to solve the Grand Unified Theory
(and everything else).  Are you aware that this was a theory put forth
by Rene Descartes in the 16th century, where he opposed the concept of
a vacuum.  It presupposed a Luminous Aether acting as the media
throughout all of space. It was a method the scientist back then were
using to explain the mechanical nature of gravity, before quantum
theory and relativity were known. It was in use until totally
discredited in the 19th century, along with the nonsense of Aether.  I
do not know why someone would be so strongly motivated to throw away
centuries of discovery and to scurry back to a discredited 400 year
idea?  Why not go further back and research "The Celestial Spheres"
developed by Plato, Aristotle and Ptolemy.  They were brilliant guys?

The bottom line is that all human being, even the greatest of us are
fallible, and the further back you go, the bigger the erroneous
concepts you will find, that have been discredited and discounted.  To
dig these fossils up, brush them off and tack on enough technobabble
to confuse everyone is either delusional or fraud to obtain money from
the legion of "true believers".


Dear SolarLab I appreciate the conversation with you however:
-You again did not provide any answers for very specific questions, taken right from the material you have been referring too. 
Not even one.
-You make claims that reminds unsupported or if any support exists than you do not wish to further discuss it.
I do not intend to corner you, nor offend you.
Material quoted is  questionable and you are not willing to answer the questions.
I do not play games nor plays nor I need it.
I'm in comfort of  understanding certain knowledge and any attempt to confront it with you  results in you going around  and leaving it behind.
So please be kind  enough to respond in the way  you as  :
Quotethe official science
should respond.
'please enlight us'  sitting in the darkness.
I wish you the best

Wesley

PS:  Without irony  just me:
I do not want to offend anyone inducing you Sir.
We are just humans.
Your position , education, achievement, social recognition  exists  only because of   your exposure, your manifestation   
-"here I'm The SolarLab."
And most of us  and people around us
the simple people, 
the dreamers ,
the self educators,
the people of hope
We have not much  to lose, we can only gain.
But we  have lost so  much , even if it was often our own fault.
We are here sicking hope, ideas, help and knowledge.

Dear SolarLab it is unfortunate that some of us including me are sensitive creatures.
We do not need more disinformation we have had  in the past
You sound like smart fellow,
I would love to see your contribution in positive way.
Can you?
   

SolarLab

F.Y.I.

Wesley (in particular) - There are times when you have to discard your physics hat and dawn your
engineering hat. Do yourself this favour, it's minimal time and cost:

1. Build (or purchase) a device similar to Dr. Meyl's, for example:

Steve Jackson - meeting presentation videos, 6 total:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmupmaVAB9uNF6ohCFrjOxQ

Some where in these videos Steve comments "get your physics from an engineer."
How true this is in so many cases!

Steve Jackson's "Meyl demonstration device" Replication pdf:
http://www.apparentlyapparel.com/uploads/5/3/5/6/5356442/jacksons_tesla-wireless-coil_instructions_apr-21-2011.pdf
https://pesn.com/archive/2011/03/26/9501797_Teslas_Scalar_Waves_Replicated_by_Steve_Jackson/index.html

As you can see from quite a few of the dead embedded links; many developers have
completed their work and moved on.

One of probably a hundred or more replications (selected from just a random search pick):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yqUula9GqU

2. Test the device. Also try driving the device with a good Pulse signal and driver FET.
Note: design a good broadband match considering the Fourier of the pulse.
RF CAE will be of great help here - test the match insitu and de-embed as required.

3. Do the math as a proof. Again, CAE - Matlab, Mathcad, etc. and analyize it.

Longitudinal Dielectric Waves In A Tesla Coil and Quaternionic Maxwell's Equations
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/deltaavalon/L.M.D.%20waves%20in%20a%20Tesla%20Coil%20revised.pdf

4. Model the physical device in CAE; simulate and optimize (may be difficult and time
consuming - many hours or days of CPU time). Using specialized software packages
will be well worth the effort and cost (Ansys, NI Microwave Office, CST, ADS, etc.).
Most of these packages now have Cloud Based, pay-as-you-go access.

5. "Official Science:" Since you love quoting Wikipedia - here is the Bumblebee argument:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bumblebee_argument

Interesting how "they" swap around "Science" and "Pseudoscience" when convenient!

6. Do the work, ponder the results, and make your own conclusions while keeping
an open mind with all things considered (unless your job title or position requires
you to do otherwise - commonly referred to as "continuity of pay!")

??? Official Science ??? or is it
??? Continuity of Pay ??? and
??? Grants ??? and
??? Peer Pressure ???


Now, I hope, you can appreciate why your simple declarations such as "prove this"
or "show me the link" might be viewed as nothing more than a "trap" set by the questioner;
or, quite possibly, based on the questioner's simple lack-of-detailed-knowledge of the subject depth.

Anyway, that's it - no more... Take a number and wait for the paper...

Supplemental:

Review the comment by Dr. Eng. Roberto Handwerker entitled
"Longitudinal Waves (L.M.D.)s", I include his full comment below -
Longitudinal Waves (L.M.D.)s
On April 02, 2011 12:29 AM MST, Dr. Eng. Roberto Handwerker <info {at} deltaavalon.com> wrote:
Dear Sirs,
this mail is a reply to a number of e-mail messages I got from [...], subsequently from Dr. K. Meyl and from Mr. S. Jackson about longitudinal waves ("L.M.D.s").
The matter "L.M.D"s. is not new at all but there is still too much discussion around it from different point of views, i.e. mathematics/physics calculus and electrical devices; this has slowly but definitely led to a total chaos even on the Web, resulting in misunderstanding and disbelief, which doesn't help anybody; therefore, the best approach for an engineer is to be very straight and careful especially when someone talks about Nikola Tesla and theories about aether and L.M.D.s., still not accepted by the "Academic World" who is as happy to hear such arguments as could be "a sailboat in a forest" so to speak and who brings in turn only useless negative criticism and hectic hysterism instead of helping clarify.

This is why I prefer to proceed "step by step" scientifically replicating some Tesla apparatus and demonstrating his experiments, which is of course not easy because he was the Mozart of the art.
I will present a book about the above and will very soon attend a Meeting in Italy to talk about L.M.D.s and show some working devices to public: it is always a pleasure to demonstrate FACTS and WORKING DEVICES rather than only showing some slides and theoretically discuss matters as "Lorenz gauge vs. Coulomb gauge", "quaternions vs. vectors", "T.E.M. vs. L.M.D." etc. etc. Only facts count, observation of Nature and research: math must consequently follow, as always.

It is therefore more useful instead to bring something new to L.M.D.s tech and to the understanding of Tesla, like for instance my "Tesla power wireless" system with the "small car-demo" shown in my following vids on You Tube (& others under "HorizonDelta"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BGFF4ltEv and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZH3RCdeVw
also a tech e-book "Longitudinal dielectric waves in a Tesla coil and quaternionic Maxwell's equations" can be found on my Website for download:
https://www.deltaavalon.com/immagini/L.M.D. waves in a Tesla Coil revised.pdf

I hope the above helped positive discussion and knowledge.
Regards
Dr. Eng. Roberto Handwerker
DELTA Ingegneria

The links in the above comment are no longer operational so do a search, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUvF-ZXejyI

FIN

ramset

Good news
and Bad news
We have some experiments which were supposed to get started here centered around the Tesla coils.
member TinselKoala's EEEE Build [a few are building to replicate

However the recent reappearance of one member who has been banned , moderated here for attacking /threatening the presenter  is making it his life's purpose to Attack the presenter here again.

so most likely not going to happen until this nonsense is taken care of.

and to be clear it would be a great test bed to investigate these claims being mentioned above.

no need for Wesley to build anything.

respectfully
Chet K
PS
this would be done in a dedicated thread here once sorted.
would be a great topic IMO
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma