Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

[NickZ]

  Void:   Yes, I understand that. But, then don't you actually have to show a working device to the patents office, and fully explain the working principle, and show proof of that? As I can't see how he could obtain the patent, otherwise. Or, anyone could get a patent for any non working device.  And there would be no benefit, in showing a fake, and paying for a worthless patent that doesn't work as described.
   What we really need is for someone to go see an actual self runner. Even if you have to pay to view it and do some tests so as not to be cheated. Wesley did that with TK,  but he did not test it's operation. Tiger and Stepanov when to see Akula's device, but again, did not test it to determine it's validity.
   

   
   

[Hoppy]

Hi Nick. I believe that was the video made by Gerson Silva Paiva from Brazil.
He made a few patent applcations where he seems to be trying to patent
setups very similar to Kapanadze. It appeared to me he was trying to rip off Kapanadze's
device by making a few changes to the basic arrangment and claiming the extra energy
comes from the 'coils capturing muons', and then applying for a patent application.
That is not Kapanadze's device. It is Paiva's supposed 'replication'. It of course could
very possibly have been faked.

Very difficult to see how that Kapanadze replication was faked. 

[Hoppy]

Even if you have to pay to view it and do some tests so as not to be cheated. Wesley did that with TK,  but he did not test it's operation.

Nick,
Wesley was only allowed to do a visual examination, so could not be certain that the device he examined was not faked. We have absolutely no proof that any of the devices presented on this forum are either genuine or faked self runners.

You say: "And there would be no benefit, in showing a fake, and paying for a worthless patent that doesn't work as described." Yes there certainly is a motive for that, by hoodwinking a naive punter to buy your fake device.

[Void]

  Void:   Yes, I understand that. But, then don't you actually have to show a working device to the patents office,
and fully explain the working principle, and show proof of that? As I can't see how he could obtain the patent, otherwise.
Or, anyone could get a patent for any non working device.     

Hi Nick, Not sure if it is the same in all countries, but I think in many countries
you don't have to demonstrate a 'working prototype' to get a patent granted. You just have to meet
all the patent application requirements and appear to be presenting something that makes
sense and which appears to be a 'novel' idea. It is possible that a patent examiner may ask
for a demonstration in some cases, but I am not sure. Definitely not a requirement however
in many countries.

[NickZ]

   Well, it looks like the only real test would be to put the ground line on your mouth, and see if there are any sparks or shocks.   As that is the only line going to the device. Except of course, Zenneck waves, coming from the Easter bunny.
   
   To me, Stalker's diagrams and videos are the real thing. If there is such a thing. I can't discount all of the shown self runner, just because we can't prove them one way or the other. There's a lot more to this than meets the eye, but time will tell. So far the secret is still a secret, until it's not.
   EDIT:
   "Once you add legal fees, non-provisional patents usually cost between $8,000 and $15,000 or more. Filing a non-provisional patent with lawyer fees will usually cost the following for each invention type: An extremely simple invention, such as a paper clip or coat hanger, will cost between $5,000 and $7,000". 
   What about a Kapanadze device???  What could that have costed? Seams like a lot of money to pay for a patent, for a fake non working device. And you'd have to be a total dummy to not test it first hand before you buy something like that.
   Remember NO ONE has proven in the slightest for sure way that any of the Ruslan/Akula, Stalker, SR, Vasmus, etz...self runners are fakes. As yet.   We could discuss this for another 1366 pages, as it's so much fun, and a great pass time.   Anyways, it looks like a patent provides no guarantee.
   Yet another replication:   https://youtu.be/YMX_-Y0r1fU