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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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Quote from: GeoFusion on October 18, 2013, 12:17:22 PM

I see you also tried in parallel but does not give the same effect as what happens with mines.

I can add 2 uF capasitor to 1 uf capasitor, who in prievious pictures, then light increse, but and curent increase.
Here with that capasitor, same lamps.

verpies

Quote from: GeoFusion on October 18, 2013, 12:17:22 PM
Yes, to that part I know when using clamp meter to go measure HF current wont give the right measurements, tried it already and compared it with many other loadings.  You will  see in next vids for sure.
But, Amp Clamp meter can be used where we can measure input from batteries.
You cannot count on the low impedance of the battery to short out high frequency components.
In other words you cannot count on pure DC at the battery terminals and on the trustworthiness of your clamp-on Ammeter there.
The proper way to get rid of the HF at the current measuring point is to measure it between the battery and a heavy-duty choke connected in series with the load.  A low ESR capacitor in parallel at the measuring point, would not hurt either.

Grumage had already addressed that problem here.

NickZ

  quote from Hoppy:
  "Yes, I can see your point as well but until we see a scope shot of the voltage and current waveforms, neither he or we can be sure. I'll wager that those lamps are consuming under 200W each. I'm hoping that GeoFusion does not take current readings of his setups with a clamp meter, which is unsuitable for measuring HF current.
                                                                                                end quote.

  We are comparing apples with pears, in Igors case, in that the output can be handled, even in water, with no shocks, yet lighting up to 2000 watts of halogen bulbs.
I doubt that the meter or the scope will register that correctly, if at all.
  Igor has a scope, so no doubt that he will showing us some shots, soon enough.
He is very helpful and direct, with nothing hidden, and explanations, and diagrams, (like I've asked Geo for) to every circuit.

  Geo: Thanks for your replies. Yes, I've tried some tuning caps to obtain better resonance, but need more of them to get a better idea. The circuit does work better with a 2 uf cap placed in series on the 3 turn yoke output coil. I'd like to try more of them (caps) like you show in parallel, as that seems to work well for you. My pictures were made about 3 months ago, and so,  I'm waiting now for your best shot at these devices, to continue to replicate my version, but maybe using your style. Or whatever works.
   
   

Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on October 18, 2013, 02:36:11 PM
  quote from Hoppy:
  "Yes, I can see your point as well but until we see a scope shot of the voltage and current waveforms, neither he or we can be sure. I'll wager that those lamps are consuming under 200W each. I'm hoping that GeoFusion does not take current readings of his setups with a clamp meter, which is unsuitable for measuring HF current.
                                                                                                end quote.

  We are comparing apples with pears, in Igors case, in that the output can be handled, even in water, with no shocks, yet lighting up to 2000 watts of halogen bulbs.
I doubt that the meter or the scope will register that correctly, if at all.
  Igor has a scope, so no doubt that he will showing us some shots, soon enough.
He is very helpful and direct, with nothing hidden, and explanations, and diagrams, (like I've asked Geo for) to every circuit.
       

Nick,

As GeoForce has already acknowledged, the current measurement is taken at the input to the device, not in series with the load. The source current is still DC pulsed at HF, so ideally the supply needs filtering before measurement as Verpies has commented. Again I say, current clamp meters are not suitable for accurate measurement at any point in this type of setup as they are designed to measure DC current and / or AC currents at grid frequency.

I'm certainly not implying that Igor is unhelpful or hiding anything. I consider his videos quite genuine without any tricks but when it comes to accurately assessing the electrical performance of his experimental setups, this is not possible without measurement data and measurement method which to date is scant.

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