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[minnie]

  EM,
     Inverse square applies monopoles.
      For simple dipole inverse cube better suits.
           John.

[itsu]

Hi br549. Your measurements are not correct. You must take phase difference between current and voltage
waveforms into account, (you can't do that with the way you connected your probes), and you can't rely on the
RMS readings of your scope, as they are typically not very accurate unless all the waveforms are sinusoidal
and very symmetrical about the 0 line, and not distorted waveforms in any way. You will have distorted waveforms
on the LEDs for example. There are other factors here that can affect measurements as well.

Hey Jeg.
Happy New Year to everyone as well....
All the best...

Void,

you are very correct.



br549,

try to measure only the input first, then the output using 2 probes (voltage and current).
make sure the FG is isolated from ground (inverter / battery) and use both of its leads.

You could temporary isolate the scope also from ground by removing the ground lug (use an extension cord without ground)
Use your scope to measure the voltage (both voltage probe connections used) and the current and use the scopes (TDS2014b)
math function to calculate the input power (ch1 x ch2 or wherever you have put the probes)

Ch1 and CH2 in RMS, Math in Mean (as many cycles as possible).

Then do the same for the output power, then recalculate the cop.

By the way, what is the make and type of the current probe you are using?
Its directly connected to the scopes input (ch2), while normally (to my knowledge) there should be a terminator inbetween
and the scopes input channel should be set to a specific voltage value for that terminator

Regards Itsu

[From other Planet]

Thanks for the drawing FOP! It is really interesting how this diode arrangement works. I always thought that Carlos had purposely mistaken on here. Is there any case for you to have the same effect even if you disconnect the lower diode from your circuit?

Hi Jeg
Ok, i will try that. I not did experiments yesterday but was thinking of possible explanations for effect. Is it possible the many single diodes inside the 40kv1A diodes act as high voltage capacitors (so impossible to discharge them without destroying the diodes) and are giving off some of their charge, due to cooling or me touching the ESL?
Btw, do you maybe have link for good source of this Wilhelm Reich stuff?

thanks and kind regards

[br549]

Thanks:   TenselKoala, void, jeg, & itsu
For the constructive feedback and suggestions. I will try working through test procedures
and let you know results.

itsu: the current probe is a Techtronics P6016. I do have the amplifier that goes with it, but
sometime don't use it, if just looking for changes.

Have a great day:

[br549]

Void,

you are very correct.



br549,

try to measure only the input first, then the output using 2 probes (voltage and current).
make sure the FG is isolated from ground (inverter / battery) and use both of its leads.

You could temporary isolate the scope also from ground by removing the ground lug (use an extension cord without ground)
Use your scope to measure the voltage (both voltage probe connections used) and the current and use the scopes (TDS2014b)
math function to calculate the input power (ch1 x ch2 or wherever you have put the probes)

Ch1 and CH2 in RMS, Math in Mean (as many cycles as possible).

Then do the same for the output power, then recalculate the cop.

By the way, what is the make and type of the current probe you are using?
Its directly connected to the scopes input (ch2), while normally (to my knowledge) there should be a terminator inbetween
and the scopes input channel should be set to a specific voltage value for that terminator

Regards Itsu

TenselKoala, void, jeg, & itsu:
You guys are right. I replaced the LED's with a resistor so all of the waveforms were the same,
measured and calculated the RMS voltage X RMS current (input and output) as I had done previously and the COP came out to be 0.81.
Then I used the math functions as itsu instructed, and the COP came out to be 0.4. There goes my fortune and fame,  although I am going to continue experimenting with this coil configuration for a little longer for better understanding.
Have a great day:
br549