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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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T-1000

@verpies:

Special for you and other confused people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eKi7ol12c4#t=0h11m20s

This is where exciter(Katcher "K" in video) goes into coil belonging to series resonant LC circuit - in last turns of coil where voltage is minimum and amperage is maximum.
Also it was said you can have parallel single wire to those last turns from exciter because all we need is high voltage BEMF with minimal current for mixing up with current and minimum voltage in main coil.

In regards to magnetostriction it is good as long as it is under control before mechanical breaking point.

Good luck!

TinselKoala

Ammeters don't measure energy, and neither do fancy voltmeters (oscilloscope traces). 400 V p-p spikes on a 200 v p-p signal don't prove "OU".

Scopes can be used to demonstrate overunity performance, by doing instantaneous multiplication of voltage and current at the load and then computing and displaying the integral over a suitable time period of that instantaneous power function, and comparing that energy integral with one obtained on the input values for the same time period. Energy out, compared to energy in, during an appropriate interval.

This is the completely accepted and standard way of doing electronic energy balance tests using scoposcopy .... and I do not think I have ever seen anyone actually using their fancy digital oscilloscopes in this manner here. Except me, of course, during the Orbo investigations. You need a 4 ch scope with live math capable of integrating a product of two traces.... and this is beyond the capability of the low-end DSOs that are available to the home experimenter, usually. I'm lucky because I can borrow one when I need it. But the same thing can be done even on a 2-channel analog scope, with care and patience. The DSO can do "live" what it takes two hours to do on the Analog system, and with slightly better precision... but not with much better accuracy.


Black_Bird

I think the simplest way to demonstrate overunity is self-running the device, in other words, having it power itself plus additional load. Of course, measurements will always be necessary, but, the only unquestionable way to prove it is self-running.

verpies

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 02, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
Scopes can be used to demonstrate overunity performance, by doing instantaneous multiplication of voltage and current at the load and then computing and displaying the integral over a suitable time period of that instantaneous power function, and comparing that energy integral with one obtained on the input values for the same time period. Energy out, compared to energy in, during an appropriate interval.
...or a selfrunner over a long period of time.
If everyone thought like you about power measurements, then life would be too beautiful.

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 02, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
This is the completely accepted and standard way of doing electronic energy balance tests using scoposcopy .... and I do not think I have ever seen anyone actually using their fancy digital oscilloscopes in this manner here.
Itsu really tried, but his scope firmware insisted on multiplying the pixels on the screen instead of samples from his A/D converters :(

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 02, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
Except me, of course, during the Orbo investigations.
Please write a summary of your measurements during the Orbo investigation.  Maybe this is not the best place for it, so please post it here.

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 02, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
You need a 4 ch scope with live math capable of integrating a product of two traces....
Why 4 channels for 2 traces?

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 02, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
The DSO can do "live" what it takes two hours to do on the Analog system, and with slightly better precision... but not with much better accuracy.
Yes, digital scopes have the problem of multiplying 2 quantization errors that are inherent in all A/D conversions.
This becomes pretty bad if a 10-bit ADC outputs only 16 levels of its analog input waveform because of inappropriate input pre-amplification.
There is a huge difference in quantization error between 16 levels and 1024 levels and even more when two such errors are multiplied and integrated.

What do you think of an idea of giving/selling "the people" a cheapo wattmeter adapter for an ordinary multimeter, based on a 2GHz precision analog multiplier ( e.g. the ADL5391 costing $7 ) ?

A crude attempt to construct such device, with an inferior AD633 multiplier, can be seen at the URL below:
http://danyk.wz.cz/wmetr_en.html

T-1000

Here is simplified circuit (modded from original tiger's circuit) to play around with L1C1 resonance in series and 1T (1 turn) max amps lowest voltage mixing point + load from last 1T for seeing if there are any effect at all. It should be same principles involvig in Dally circuit replication and I do not see any other way than coax cable with nanopulser same as in circuit below: