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[Grumage]

Dear Nick.

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One of the things that I'd like to bring up is the term "coil shorting". I don't know where this term came from, but, it does not describe what is really going on, and can confuse more than anything else.
As there is no "shorting" when the transistor switch opens the tank circuit. What we are calling BEMF is also not right, as there is no going "back" to it, as it is a pulse that goes both forward and back at the same time, so it should just be called pulsed EMF, and not BEMF.
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I am afraid you have it wrong. Coil shorting is just what it says. Both Itsu and I have been aplying an effective short across a coil that is in circuit all the time. I used a small reed switch. Itsu used a couple of FET's. We were not opening and closing a tank circuit as you suggest.

Secondly BEMF or CEMF are terms used to describe the counter force against a current trying to energise an inductive circuit. This is the reason why the current lag's the voltage.

Hope that clears up any confusion??

Cheers Grum.

[gyulasun]

I pulsed my two parallelled MOSFETs with a much higher gate frequency (5.6Khz), causing the voltage on the capacitor to rise 5 times higher as in the no pulse situation (222V versus 47V).

I wonder what will happen if i also could pulse the lower half of the sine wave.

Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGieOdkZIN4&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

thanks itsu. that is an excellent coil shorting demonstration.

i'm seeing the same flattening of the spikes as you are.
the spec's on the mosfet, Vdg, is inline with the voltage flattening.

i think i'm going to introduce a low turn primary and drive this primary to kick the voltage up.

thanks again.

take care.

nap

Hi Itsu and Nap,

Itsu,  thanks for the very informative video on coil shorting. What would also be interesting to learn is how the power draw would change from the input AC (sine wave) power source when you load the capacitor voltage by a certain load (compared to before and after the coil shorting).  Whenever you have the chance to explore it I would appreciate very much.

Greetings, Gyula

[T-1000]

I pulsed my two parallelled MOSFETs with a much higher gate frequency (5.6Khz), causing the voltage on the capacitor to rise 5 times higher as in the no pulse situation (222V versus 47V).

I wonder what will happen if i also could pulse the lower half of the sine wave.

Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGieOdkZIN4&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

Itsu, thanks for your efforts

You can do both sine wave halves just will need to see where current draw on primary begins to rise and what is ratio of its draw versus output. Obviously taking output straight off capacitors won't do much performance. In my oppinion, the output of spikes circuit is best to do over full bridge with high speed diodes to 2 capacitors in series then discharge one by one for inverter pulses(that agrees with Dynatron circuit). The step down LC transforner would be best case with capacitor on paralel for resonant frequency of 50/60Hz. If you will play around this idea, you might achieve very good results.

The discharge of energy stored in an inductor which is termed 'cold electricity' is not the same thing as induced voltage in a motor coil that creates a current in opposition to the motor energising current - BEMF / CEMF.

Have you built the Dally circuit and achieved self-running?

The nature is same if you go down to atom level...
Also for some reason you are asking what makes me feel unconvienent to answer. My answer to all questions like this is simple - if I do have something assembled on my table I do not have any reasons to hide it.

[NickZ]

  @ Grummage:
   I am not shorting a coil on a generator, and fighting against the force of BEMF, as in the example that you are working with. But through transistor switching which opens up the circuit instead, like opening not closing a switch which is then causing the spike. 
  Tesla mentions shutting OFF the switch, as the cause of deaths, not shorting the circuit. It is the stopping of the flow that caused the additional voltage and unexpected results. Although maybe shorting a spinning generator can cause a similar reaction, this I sure don't know. Nor am I assuming to know anything, either. As I'm still trying to understand all this.
In any case, did you achieve a much higher output, due to this shorting, or not? That is the question.

  What Itsu is showing is very helpful, and proves the point of tuning using the duty cycle and frequency adjustments to obtain a higher output, as Akula has done, as well. That is encouraging. Of course if the input is raised, so will the output. And if the output is much higher than the input then the feed-back path can be implemented, as well.
   
  Hoppy: although replicating the device exactly is no doubt the best way to go. There is no easy way that I can see of being able to effectively do this, without at least a proper and correct diagram, proper pictures, videos, tuning instructions, etz..
Therefore my suggestions, as I don't believe that neither the battery, inverter, or rectifier are the cause of the anomaly, nor is the feed-back circuit the cause of it, either. What I'm trying to do is eliminate what is probably not the cause, and get to the nitty gritty of it, without the added expence of 400 watt inverter, replicating an unknown driver circuit, and unknown wiring configuration, etz...
But, of course, if you have all of the exact parts and configuration needed, and know of the exact schematics of it, and know how to tune the device, well then, that would be the best way to go.
However, as it is the driver circuit and coil relations and correct wiring that are the unknowns in this case, a true and proper replication is doubtful, at best.  My idea is to obtain the results of lower input to higher output gain, and work on that angle, first, then try to replicate using the rest of the shown device. But, not avoiding it at all, ultimately, by any means.  It is the working principle that I'm after, at this point.
Akula did not need nor use a battery/inverter/ rectifier to obtain the induction heater results, that lead to his latest circuits, nor did he have a feed-back path at that point. If you see what I'm getting at...
In any case, anyone can and will do as they please. I'm just trying to avoid all the expenses, and disappointments, if it doesn't work out. But, I feel that with possibly minor changes, even your circuit, or Grums, can be made to work as shown.   But, it's still the working principle that we are lacking,
  It will come, sooner or later.

[NickZ]

   T-1000 and All:
   I really do appreciate your input. I know that we are all doing our best to help figure out these extremely important circuits, and you as well as others have put in many months, and even years to this end. I am a baby in comparison. However, I'm also not giving up on my end, no matter how difficult things may seam.
  I also encourage you to actively participate in the hands-on replication efforts, as Itsu, Hoppy, Grum, and myself and others are doing. As this would be the best help and advice that anyone can offer to the rest of us.

  I also welcome and invite MenofFather, Cepren B., a.King, Wesley, Verpies, and our other Russian speaking comrades to join in and participate actively in these replications.
Just as the NASA space missions are also collaborating now, as well.