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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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Khwartz

Quote from: NickZ on December 24, 2013, 08:10:16 PM
  Khwartz:
  You have just made sure that people like GeoFusion will not continue to post here.
  Please find something to do with yourself on Christmas Eve, other than being a pest.
I am sure your IQ is enough to understand that not providing good measurements or rigorous demo, while it is as easy to do like to provide a so very simple checking light bulb on grid, IS NOT A GOOD THING for the Quest? why you do not make the effort to understand this so very simple statement? Would it be your true and honourable desire we get here a working overunity device, blinds you as much!?

Since years I follow I see so much time wasted, so much efforts wasted for nothing! and please don't try to give lessons to someone who has went to others countries, give help on his own money and even family money until having no more and get difficulties even not yet resolved, to help poor people with the already existent free energy system like solar ones!

Remember well too that I am ready to pay Verpies for the parts for his W->V converter and even shipping to few who could at least provide first the true rigorous linear heating resistor outpower checking system (one linear resistor on grid + an identical on the output device, in 2 separated dry closed insulated boxes with thermometers showing the differential of gradient speed of each box, while of course, the one delivering the more power will increase its temperature faster), which is an non-expensive set-up at all but 100% laboratory rigorous way to proceed.

I am as much as you, and could be more, interested in the finding and proof of overunity, but mere measurements and "he said" instead of true rigorous demo, won't demonstrate any!

I know you are an honest and sincere experimenter, like many here, and I try here to help with some of my skills which are very about methodology, what looks to me lacking the most here.

You are free to not following my advises or those of Hoppy and Verpies about demanding accurate demo and measurements, but I am still free to try that all this work could go somewhere and have results; TRUE results!

I am not about to discourage any one, all the contrary! I do ask and encourage Geo just the demo he indeed he will provide, nothing else! He did said himself he will; do you see them for now?

verpies

Quote from: Khwartz on December 24, 2013, 08:27:39 PM
I am sure your IQ is enough to understand that not providing good measurements or rigorous demo, while it is as easy to do like to provide a so very simple checking light bulb on grid, IS NOT A GOOD THING for the Quest? why you do not make the effort to understand this so very simple statement? Would it be your true and honourable desire we get here a working overunity device, blinds you as much!?

Since years I follow I see so much time wasted, so much efforts wasted for nothing! and please don't try to give lessons to someone who has went to others countries, give help on his own money and even family money until having no more and get difficulties even not yet resolved, to help poor people with the already existent free energy system like solar ones!

Remember well too that I am ready to pay Verpies for the parts for his W->V converter and even shipping to few who could at least provide first the true rigorous linear heating resistor outpower checking system (one linear resistor on grid + an identical on the output device, in 2 separated dry closed insulated boxes with thermometers showing the differential of gradient speed of each box, while of course, the one delivering the more power will increase its temperature faster), which is an non-expensive set-up at all but 100% laboratory rigorous way to proceed.

I am as much as you, and could be more, interested in the finding and proof of overunity, but mere measurements and "he said" instead of true rigorous demo, won't demonstrate any!

I know you are an honest and sincere experimenter, like many here, and I try here to help with some of my skills which are very about methodology, what looks to me lacking the most here.

You are free to not following my advises or those of Hoppy and Verpies about demanding accurate demo and measurements, but I am still free to try that all this work could go somewhere and have results; TRUE results!

I am not about to discourage any one, all the contrary! I do ask and encourage Geo just the demo he indeed he will provide, nothing else! He did said himself he will; do you see them for now?
@NickZ
The jist of the post above can by summarized as: "Rigor is not the same as discouragement/negativity/pessimism".
Also, if Hoppy stops analyzing these videos with his keen eyes, we will be worse off without his help.

NickZ

  The devices we have seen up to now are not a "done deal". Nor ready to be proven by their builder, as yet. What we have been shown so far, is so that we can also improve on  them, if interested, even though they are not yet in a finished state.

   I am very interested, in having a self runner in my hands, and will do all I possibly can towards that end. If I achieve some positive results, I will for sure provide at least a video, or as much proof as possible. Those that know me, also may know that I'm a serious person, not into faking, or such things for my own gain, fame, or profit.
Although, I see nothing wrong with making a profit, on a truly revolutionary and much needed device, once fully developed.

  You are encouraged to make the mentioned tests on your working device, even if it's not showing OU, yet. And to show us all how well it works, or doesn't work.
I have nothing against such tests, on the contrary.
As You want proof, well, perhaps you need to show proof first. And, IF you show that it can provide some kind of valid results on test devices, that may inspire more of us to follow suit. I encourage you to do so...  we are all on the same side, even though it may not seam like it at times. 
Rigor, is one thing, but demands and insistance, on still undeveloped devices are another thing.

forest

Again ,this discussion is pointless. In the perfect world we would have a joyfull,happy inventor sharing all the details and his theories freely and openly to all other persons online. We would have no single slight shadow of doubt to his integrity and reality of inventions. However this perfect world couldn't be based on money and profit expectations. As soon as we are here we must take into account the possibility of fake devices and untrutful "inventors" , but the amount of accusation here is too great. Most people do not spent time, money  and risk of unrevealing the secret of complex device just to fool others, especially when they try to remain anonymous..

d3x0r

Quote from: Khwartz on December 24, 2013, 07:24:17 PM
If I like much the work of my citizenhood Mandelbrot, I take your words about imaginary numbers to remind you probably that they are strictly isomorph (~ "equivalent") of the 3 vectorial space dimensions where the third plays for the imaginary numbers (while the fractal is drawn in 2 dimensions its construction takes place in a third one, here named "imaginary" one).

Why I bring your attention on that all it is because while taking the three physical true dimensions, putting aside time which is only an abstract dimension base only the work of the Master scientist Henri POINCARĂ© (not Einstein) about the n-dimensional mathematical space, the properties expressed as imaginary numbers may be taken has coming from "other physical dimensions".

In fact, these "dimensions" are only mathematical and express quantities, values, of physical entities which could not be recognized and perceived with our present instruments by lack of knowing how to register any effect of it. These famous hypothetical properties of the the "aether", "vacuum", plenum", "ZPE", what ever name we could give to the concept of apparent empty "vacuum".

Well, there is an other place any way to discuss this, but this my Christmas Gift here for any one interest is this subject; what ever abstract and unacceptable it could appears for several.

Cheers,
Khwartz.
Ya Holidays... distraction from work... it's inconvenient enough that stores are only open during the day :)


3D?  Yes, each point is the result of whether the point starting at 0+0i + acceleration converges or diverges... and the colors are the level at which you detect that divergance.


I know there's other places to discuss things; but it applied to the topic here; and there; and should replicate posts, since those who are here aren't there... Here's a snapshot


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x6iBI8nxG0