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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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MenofFather

Quote from: itsu on November 06, 2014, 03:45:48 AM
Hi MenofFather, 

well, in resonance the phase between current and voltage is normally 0 degrees in one coil.
As i tune for resonance, it seems normal to me that i get 0 degrees phase shift.
However, i (and Ruslan??) are probing the current in the inductor and the voltage over the Grenade, so 2 different (coupled) coils

Why Ruslan gets 90 degrees phase shift, i do not know, but i notice his signals in the trace screenshot is very
low like 5 / 10V pp which points to no resonance (i get 500 / 750V pp in resonance)

But when i detune to no resonance, my current signal (moustache) deforms and is no longer this spiky signal but shifts
some degrees out of phase (no 90 degrees though).

Regards Itsu
Itsu, you try put curent transformer betwen capasitor and one end of inductor cable? Maybe then you get phashe shift 90 degree like Ruslan? Or maybe oscilioscope have option (function) move one chanel signal realeatively other to one side or other side?

itsu

Quote from: MenofFather on November 06, 2014, 04:16:06 AM
Itsu, you try put curent transformer betwen capasitor and one end of inductor cable? Maybe then you get phashe shift 90 degree like Ruslan?

I can try that, but i doubt that in 1 LC circuit the current before or after a capacitor is suddenly shifted 90 degrees.

QuoteOr maybe oscilioscope have option (function) move one chanel signal realeatively other to one side or other side?

I don't know my scope can do that, but i am certain some scopes can, but why would one do that in this case as it would
not represent the real situation in the circuit?

Regards Itsu

Hoppy

Quote from: MenofFather on November 06, 2014, 01:31:39 AM
Did you mean, that lamp shining brighter on 1.316 Mhz and then you ajust kacher to little lower or upper frenquency, then lamp shine more dimmly?

Meno & all,

Further observation has shown that its not the changing frequency of the Kacher that's causing the pulsing. It appeared this way because I was drawing the ferrite rods in and out of the tube inside the Kacher coil. However, I found today that the its the effect the ferrite rods are having on the grenade coil when the inductor is very close to resonance. I can cap tune the inductor to start the lamp slowly pulsing and then when the ferrite rods are moved towards either end of the grenade, the pulsing will increase in frequency until the lamp stops pulsing and steadies in brightness. Its clearly an interaction between the grenade and inductor coils. I'm not sure that this is particularly significant, as it is likely to be the beat frequency between the two coils as they interact. However, because it looks so like the pulsing lamps I've seen in the self-running videos, it just might be that getting a beat frequency is very significant.

Hoppy

Quote from: magpwr on November 05, 2014, 06:30:06 PM
Hi hoppy,

Recall the 60th sub-harmonics generator i have posted.It was design for this to ensure the both waveform stays aligned without run off.Take note circuit just needs to be tuned once to ensure both output produce nearlythe same duty at around 47% and ensure both output have around equal 750ns deadtime gap between 2 outputs before connecting to mosfet.

Hi Mag,

With respect, I have no intention of deviating from the original design at least until I see my Ruslan replication showing more positive signs of self-running and this will require me to first setup a decent earthing system in my back garden. We are being swamped with different circuit variants and I see it important to work as closely to what I see and interpret from close study of the various Ruslan's videos, coupled with the circuit diagrams that bear closest resemblance to the build in the videos. As NickZ has commented, he trusts his eyes more than the circuit diagrams. I think there is some wisdom in this approach.

skywalker66

Quote from: Hoppy on November 06, 2014, 06:58:02 AM
Meno & all,

Further observation has shown that its not the changing frequency of the Kacher that's causing the pulsing. It appeared this way because I was drawing the ferrite rods in and out of the tube inside the Kacher coil. However, I found today that the its the effect the ferrite rods are having on the grenade coil when the inductor is very close to resonance. I can cap tune the inductor to start the lamp slowly pulsing and then when the ferrite rods are moved towards either end of the grenade, the pulsing will increase in frequency until the lamp stops pulsing and steadies in brightness. Its clearly an interaction between the grenade and inductor coils. I'm not sure that this is particularly significant, as it is likely to be the beat frequency between the two coils as they interact. However, because it looks so like the pulsing lamps I've seen in the self-running videos, it just might be that getting a beat frequency is very significant.

Hi Hoppy !
Do you see same pulsing effect when kacher is off ?
Is your pulsing light correlated with ferrite bar moving near by ?
Is your load lamp 20W at 12V or 220V (110V) rated?
Sorry for excessive curiosity ! ;)

Maximum power transfer from inductor to grenade coil is when inductor-capacitor-3T assembly is driven by push-pull at exactly resonant frequency. If you play with your ferrite bar near inductor, you change its inductance, therefore resonant frequency of series  inductor-capacitor-3T assembly not match anymore to push-pull frequency set previously, unless your push-pull is adaptive, case when you will not see that pulsation, just steady bright of light bulb.

Edit:
And further more, when you put ferrite bar inside the grenade, you increase coupling factor between inductor and grenade coil.