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[NickZ]

  Hoppy, I didn't miss your post 7503, but I don't fully understand it.
  You mentioned that by sliding the ferrite rods in the Kacher tube you were able to fully lit a 40 watt bulb, when the bulb is connected to the grenade's output side.
  Ok, but that is not much of a load. With higher wattage bulbs, what happens.
Nothing probably, right. Which is the limit of the Kacher's power output to the grenade. But, with both your circuits, the Kacher and yoke/grenade operating at the same time, what bulbs can be lit? Even when best tuned by the ferrite rods, inside the Kacher. If you notice an great improvement when the Kacher is also connected, then, maybe you aren't far away from having it self run, as well.

  I'm still wondering why my bulbs are not fully bright at the grenade, and why there is such lousy efficiency in these circuits. Overheating of Fets, and transistors, etz...   Compared to any car inverter.
  Like you noticed, the higher the output, the more amps are consumed, and the hotter the components get. Especially with 1000+ watt loads.

  Have you tried to connect the grenade's output to your el cheapo PS, to see what happens when that output is feed back to the input side, yet? 

[Void]

Re: Ruslan's pulsed output capacitor device

I have found that when I connect an output capacitor (1uF) through a FWBR
at the output of the grenade coil, after the capacitor charges up from the tesla coil HV,  it
tends to keep self discharging a bit and then recharge again in a constant cyclic pulsing fashion. It is like
the circuit has its own heart beat. The pulsing can be very slow, such as once every second or even a fair
bit slower, or it can be somewhat faster than that. It depends on the exact tuning. In Ruslan's video where
his output capacitor is falling in voltage and then sometimes jumping up to a higher voltage, this may be due
to the same sort of effect.

Here's a very short 20 second video clip showing this pulsing on the function generator input voltage and current waveforms
on my scope, on the primary of the tesla coil. The voltage on the output capacitor pulses in the same way, by itself, with
no load placed across the output capacitor. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ6txpZksv4

All the best...

[Jeg]

Void, your dancing sinus waveform rocks!!!
About what you asked, it is as you said. Normal primary and secondary, a thick coil at the top of the secondary, and one cable connection from this thick coil to any point in the circuit of grenade. Try attaching it to several points to see the difference. I think that d3x0r's way of attaching galvanically the output of the secondary through a cap to your grenade circuit is a good method. I haven't tried it yet though as i have dismantled my device for testing some other topologies. Any way of amplifying katcher's affection to the rest of the circuit will be welcomed here. But, as i think this is not the point. This will not give a self runner by itself.

Another thing is that as much as someone raises the mosfet's voltage, the HF katcher's output voltage that is being induced at the output grenade circuit is getting higher (without raising kacher's input consumption).

Nick, when you speak about jumper do you mean about the ground connections? Cause there is not any other physical connection between the two circuits.
Ok i have asked you again but i forgot. Is Akula's second circuit device the one with the two mosfet coils on the yoke core which lights some led arrays at the output? Man your output load is way too high to notice significant difference with the use of katcher. Try some 50W load first to see if there is any impact of katcher so to check if your circuit can transfer katcher's voltage at your output load.

Ps. Void, at your video waveforms, is capacitor connected at the +- output bridge points or at the AC input as Ruslan's related drawing?
   

[Hoppy]

  Hoppy, I didn't miss your post 7503, but I don't fully understand it.
  You mentioned that by sliding the ferrite rods in the Kacher tube you were able to fully lit a 40 watt bulb, when the bulb is connected to the grenade's output side.
  Ok, but that is not much of a load. With higher wattage bulbs, what happens.
Nothing probably, right. Which is the limit of the Kacher's power output to the grenade. But, with both your circuits, the Kacher and yoke/grenade operating at the same time, what bulbs can be lit? Even when best tuned by the ferrite rods, inside the Kacher. If you notice an great improvement when the Kacher is also connected, then, maybe you aren't far away from having it self run, as well.

  I'm still wondering why my bulbs are not fully bright at the grenade, and why there is such lousy efficiency in these circuits. Overheating of Fets, and transistors, etz...   Compared to any car inverter.
  Like you noticed, the higher the output, the more amps are consumed, and the hotter the components get. Especially with 1000+ watt loads.

  Have you tried to connect the grenade's output to your el cheapo PS, to see what happens when that output is feed back to the input side, yet?

The description I gave was with both the push-pull and Kacher working. When the Kacher is switched on, the bulb can be taken from low light to full brightness by tuning and then to no light output just by hand capacitance - moving the hand close to the antenna.

This Ruslan setup using the yoke has poor efficiency as a transformer and cannot light a 1000W bulb (with or without grenade & Kacher) very brightly when driven with a Mazilli or TL494 driven push-pull oscillator at 12V or 24V working. This is why I can only get full bulb rated voltage (240V) across a 40W lamp with the help of the Kacher. With a 60W or 100W bulb, the voltage across them drops and therefore so does the light output. As Jeg has commented, your load is way to high to see any significant effect from the Kacher.

Yes, I have tried looping back and nothing happens in respect of seeing any signs self-running. Its time to focus on the concept of operation because the Ruslan device as demonstrated and circuit as drawn is either fake or we are missing a vital part of the build.

[Hoppy]

Re: Ruslan's pulsed output capacitor device

I have found that when I connect an output capacitor (1uF) through a FWBR
at the output of the grenade coil, after the capacitor charges up from the tesla coil HV,  it
tends to keep self discharging a bit and then recharge again in a constant cyclic pulsing fashion. It is like
the circuit has its own heart beat. The pulsing can be very slow, such as once every second or even a fair
bit slower, or it can be somewhat faster than that. It depends on the exact tuning. In Ruslan's video where
his output capacitor is falling in voltage and then sometimes jumping up to a higher voltage, this may be due
to the same sort of effect.

Here's a very short 20 second video clip showing this pulsing on the function generator input voltage and current waveforms
on my scope, on the primary of the tesla coil. The voltage on the output capacitor pulses in the same way, by itself, with
no load placed across the output capacitor. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ6txpZksv4

All the best...

The music is certainly more funky than the waveform!