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[Hoppy]

   Guys: 
   I don't compete,  I never have and never will.   That is your take on it.
   I am cooperating, even though you may see it differently.  I should probably have worded my reply differently so that you won't come to that conclusion.  My apologies to Geo, if he sees it that way, as well.  But, All I said was that I see on my device the same or similar result without all the additional components. That was it.
   
  The idea was to build and tune similar devices, but when any of us deviates from the build (me), that is not so easy to do.
However, when I see that a circuit is only drawing 5 out of 15 Amps, I see that something is not right. Geo does also. And I'm looking for the cause, but not by throwing dirt on what anyone has else has done. Sorry you if see it that way.  But, that was not the idea.
 

Please explain why you think its not right for Geo's circuit to draw only 5 Amps? I don't see this as necessarily unusual, given that Geo has not measured the power dissipated by the bulbs and compared it to the input power. A conclusion that all is not right or normal can only be reasonably made when normal explanations have been exhausted and I'm afraid that so far, little effort is being made to establish that by proper measurement. It does not follow that because his PSU might be rated for 15A, that his circuit must pull that current, just because he connects high power rated bulbs of up to 500W. With respect, your knowledge of electrical principles is not allowing you to understand the cause and probably never will because you prefer to dicscount conventional explanations in respect of this device, which you firmly believe is operating in a very unconventional manner based on anecdotal evidence.

Just joking about the competition by the way. I know it would be an unfair competition because Geo would most likely win, as he has additional earthing through his bare feet. 

[Hoppy]

 
   What I find amusing is how of all the members here, only a very few are actually doing any thing about it, at all.
  Are you all competing to see who does the least?

I'm waiting for someone / anyone to motivate me into further bench work, by showing some solid evidence that something unusual is driving these devices. I fear it will be a very long wait but like you Nick, I'm in no hurry.

[AlienGrey]

I'm waiting for someone / anyone to motivate me into further bench work, by showing some solid evidence that something unusual is driving these devices. I fear it will be a very long wait but like you Nick, I'm in no hurry.
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I pity anyone who does that cus is all that will happen is they will just get hassled to death and wish they had kept their mouth shut     

[NickZ]

    Hoppy:
    I have been recommended to use the home made TL 494 circuit, by several of the guys who have made them themselves. And even Itsu which tested the commercial TL 494 board and found it to work the same or at least similar to his home made TL circuit. Both of his circuits also showed a similar low output,  as well.
   Due to the poor output that everyone that has used that system has shown, has not convinced me to go that route, as yet.  Which without measurement my guess is only about 30% efficiency, or even less. 
  Therefore, I am doing what I can with the funds and equipment I have to work with, but I am willing to go with whatever design works, in the future. As I'm not done with this, at all.  And so for now,  I am doing it in my own way, which has not worked as I expected, but not so bad, either, and I'm still at it. 
  Concerning the 5 amp draw, from the 15A supply.  If you think that that is the way it should work, well, fine,  I don't see it that way, as Geo's 300 to 500w bulb, should light up brighter, and also draw more amps from the PS, which it's not doing, and should not be limited to just drawing the 5 amps, no matter what load is placed on it.
In any case, that's my opinion and the way that I see it for now until something else should change my mind.
  The 60v output from the grenade is not right, and will not produce OU, nor self running, so that is what we need to work on, also.

  Hoppy,  yes, the barefoot brigade is leading the war against the supression of FE. But, the battle is not over, yet.

[Hoppy]

   
  Concerning the 5 amp draw, from the 15A supply.  If you think that that is the way it should work, well, fine,  I don't see it that way, as Geo's 300 to 500w bulb, should light up brighter, and also draw more amps from the PS, which it's not doing, and should not be limited to just drawing the 5 amps, no matter what load is placed on it.
In any case, that's my opinion and the way that I see it for now until something else should change my mind.

Nick,

I'm not saying you are wrong that a self-runner on a 15A PSU should be able to light-up a 300 to 500 W brighter, obviously because I've never closely studied a true self-runner to know in depth how it works. I can understand how Geo's situation with 5A draw for all bulbs appears counter intuitive to you, given your present knowledge and understanding of electrical circuits. All I'm saying is that what we observe in Geo's demo, is not necessarily unusual or unconventional as you are suggesting.