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Overunity Machines Forum



CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel

Started by helloha, September 20, 2012, 09:55:52 PM

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helloha

Analysing of Bessler's Clues 68.
< Little Info, Diameter of Bearing and the wheel's COM (center of mass) >

- refer to image for closer look at the distance between the wheel's COM and the bearing diameter

- also, if the COM of wheel is close to the pivot point, it would stand to indicate that the unbalance of the wheel is weak, very weak

helloha

Analysing of Bessler's Clues 69.
< Little Info, Strongest of Child and Lightest of Club >

"The levers loaded with heavy weights as viewed from the side, may be compared to side views of many children playing with very heavy clubs among tall broken columns. The strongest of the children cannot lift the lightest of the clubs. Still, each child can swing (or you might call it "step" as it uses a club as a "leg") from the top of one broken column to the top of the next broken column by positioning his heavy club on the ground between the two close columns and holding on to the handle end to swing over to the top of the next column. Then he rotates the handle end of his club to maneuver it between his current column and his next intended column so that he can again "step" or swing a small angle over to the top of the next intended broken column.

If the clubs are even heavier by being double-ended, then instead of rolling them to the next position, they may be alternatively transported between the columns by switching ends. A double club may be moved in seesaw fashion by leaning it against the current broken column that the child is on and rolling it over the top of the column (assuming that there is enough room for the child to stay on top of the column). The double club is pivoted with a circular motion with one end going up while the other end goes down."

- "strongest of the children"... strong does not mean heavy

- "lightest of the clubs"... the 'lightest', in this case, is comparing among the same object, the club,

- but if comparing the club with another object, the club might be the heavy one

- so, let's assume that

1. child = swinging weight = light weight
2. club = rolling weight/see-saw weight = heavy weight

- refer to image for interpretation of the strongest of child and lightest of club

- more info, refer back to

1. the Light weight, the Heavy Weight and the Heavier Weight
http://www.overunity.com/12742/cg-showcase-of-overbalanced-wheel/msg403461/#msg403461

2. Basic Movement of the Weights
http://www.overunity.com/12742/cg-showcase-of-overbalanced-wheel/msg403957/#msg403957

3. A "Child & Club" Interpretation of Bessler Wheel
http://www.overunity.com/12742/cg-showcase-of-overbalanced-wheel/msg405229/#msg405229


helloha

Analysing of Bessler's Clues 70.
< Little Info, How many 1 pound/4 pounds or 4 ounces/16 ounces ? >

"Who can make a pound-weight rise as 4 ounces fall, or 4 pounds rise as 16 ounces fall"

- the question, how many number of the a pound weight and 4 ounces weight, or how many number of the 4 pounds weight and 16 ounces weight ?

- rephrase the sentence into 4 options to choose

1. who can make one heavy weight rise as one light weight fall
2. who can make n number of heavy weights rise as one light weight fall
3. who can make one heavy weight rise as n number of light weights fall
4. who can make n number of heavy weights rise as n number of light weights fall

- refer to image for the options on the number of weights

"The levers loaded with heavy weights as viewed from the side, may be compared to side views of many children playing with very heavy clubs among tall broken columns. The strongest of the children cannot lift the lightest of the clubs. Still, each child can swing (or you might call it "step" as it uses a club as a "leg") from the top of one broken column to the top of the next broken column by positioning his heavy club on the ground between the two close columns and holding on to the handle end to swing over to the top of the next column. Then he rotates the handle end of his club to maneuver it between his current column and his next intended column so that he can again "step" or swing a small angle over to the top of the next intended broken column."

- "strongest of children" - the strongest represent one child, or one object,

- same with "lightest of clubs" - one club, or one object

- and from previous post "Little Info, Strongest of Child and Lightest of Club", one light weight (child) cannot lift up one heavy weight (club)

lumen

With weights connected in a clutched Roberval wheel it may be possible to cause continuous rotation.

The video shows one weight Roberval and the other connected anti-Roberval. With clutching to both it would seem possible.

helloha

b-VIV. trying my hands on wm2d, Roberval Balance vs See-Saw Balance v25 (lumen version)

- testing variation designs based on lumen's concept
http://www.overunity.com/12742/cg-showcase-of-overbalanced-wheel/msg417432/#msg417432